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    Player Eekiki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackpearlguy View Post
    Definitely two different user groups I won't dispute that, but that's why it makes sense to cater to both. If you check GW2 the whole FATE system is an epic fail. FATE will be the introduction, instances will probably be the main course. With that being said FFXI had 500k subs at peak, a lot of which could be attracted back by features like the re-implementation of HNM. If you can't tell that by the 100 plus pages on this forum then you're blind.
    I count 26 pages in this thread, many of them refuting this claim.

    In point of fact, the main force that sent many of those 500k subscribers away after FFXI's peak was World of Warcraft, a game that catered much more highly to the casual player, and a game that has yet to be bested in terms of financial success or player population ever since it knocked FFXI out of the #1 spot.

    I can even remember hearing the stories as people left. "It's so much better than FFXI. I can log in for only a couple hours a day and actually make progress!" "Soo much nicer not having to sit around camping NMs for hours in order to get drops."

    I could go on, but you get the gist.

    And I hope you can see how your two schools of thought can't co-exist in the same game, because of two reasons.

    1. If the gear you get from your "HNMs" is equal to gear you get from instanced raids, triggered pop NMs, or boss fights. NO ONE is going to bother sitting on their asses for hours doing nothing waiting for an HNM to pop. It isn't fun. It isn't. Stop pretending it is. Shut up.

    2. If the long-lottery-repop HNM gear is superior to all others, then that's all anyone will care about endgame, so no one will bother with instanced raids, boss fights, triggered pops, PvP, or anything else. You're tossing dozens of potential forms of content in the garbage for one that's not fun in any way.
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    Last edited by Eekiki; 01-31-2013 at 05:31 AM.