Quote Originally Posted by Blackpearlguy View Post
I think you misunderstood what I was saying.. You aren't always going to run around with your linkshell, sometimes you'll want to do other things! This is when FATE will work really great, say that Empire x is attacking empire y and it's up to those who are logged on to help fight these battles across the entire world. Gives that player a little attack/defend/NM fight with random community members while gaining exp. From the FATE event you could form an exp/instance/quest party.

HNM needs to have there own distinctive value (what makes them different and interesting), having to dispatch a number of lesser mobs to get a special item before popping the mega mob seems like a good but old system (Maybe for lesser NMs ie Leaping Lizzy). Interactive camping like Dark Ixion and SW from FFXI would work, because you'd need to skill and coordination just to fight, and then the fight itself would hopefully be extremely hard.

In others defense don't mind me i'm a bias former FFXI player, however I have also played Tera/WoW/GW2/PW/SWtor and saw the glaringly obvious mistakes that have occurred by making everything instanced and so you can run through a world without even interacting with others in it. Excuse the essay, I just think this will be a big part of endgame which will be VERY important to our playerbase and deserves contributions by those of us who have experience in MMOs.
and since HNM are open world anyways, what's the difference?
sounds silly you'd need to be in a LS party, otherwise the fight couldn't possible need any skill....
it would surely be harder to coordinate things with random people outside party, but that doesn't mean it needs to be a no-skill fight. DPS can do their thing, tanks can tank, WHM can curaga everyone around them, etc.
You can do any tactical fight with a group; if everyone knows what they are doing you dont even need to discuss tactics. If everyone knows what they are doing, you don't even need a party; which is why a FATE can be as tactical as any instanced/group boss anyways. And i'm sure HNM were buttonmashers with multiple parties there anyways. Just like atomos was with 100ppl; but with just 10 ppl, something else entirely.
I wouldn't mind if there something specific you need to do to summon some HNM or whatever, but it wouldn't really change the fact it turns into buttonmasher with lots of people there? Unless you summon it somewhere else, with your LS. But that removes the point of open world content anyways. And if it don't need lots of people to kill it, i don't know what's so *highly* notorious about them anyways.

Oh and i just watched a vid of 2 ppl fighting Dark Ixion...i didn't see any of the skill needed to fight it...
Can you link any vid showing some fight needing tactics? that couldn't be done in FATE?