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    The Patriarch
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    I don't believe that casual players should have everything that players who put more effort into the game have. However, the real problem is when a good item is designated by the players as absolutely must have. Then no longer can casuals say whatever, they have to go get it or they can't even play when they log in because groups will turn their noses up at them.

    When you make a piece of gear so good compared to everything else, players tend to call everything else gimp. You MUST have the best item even if it's only a couple stat points better. That's really where the problem starts. But if the drop isn't that good then what's the point of farming the NM? So you have two bad situations and depending on where you sit in the discussion one may not may not matter to you. To me, it is better to not allow this kind of gear to drop in the first place than to create a situation where the majority of players are inconvenienced or even outright denied the enjoyment of the game because of the introduction of the alpha item.

    I think NMs are fun and I want to see lots more in the game. Especially if they are unique and challenging. But, I think they should not drop great gear. Trophies, achieves, things to put in your house, and stuff of that nature? Great. Let's have that.
    So you want HNM's to drop novelty items to decorate our houses with? I'm sorry but that sounds ridiculous.

    Lets introduce HNMs but give them trophies to say that we beat them and be done with them. That way we can get back to doing nothing... I must disagree on this as well. HNMs (imo) should drop great items, possibly some money drops too.

    That would also take the excitement, thrill, and the majority of fun away from gathering at camp, getting claim and killing it.

    HNM's need Great Weapon/Armor/etc drops. Not just trinkets to say we've beaten it. I think titles did a great job at that.

    So not only do I have a Ridill equipped, but my title is Fafnir Slayer. That is alot cooler than a tree in my mog house.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peptaru View Post
    If you extend the pop area you'll have the speed hackers winnin claim, and bot or no there's going to be mpk unless they alter the current system or severely limit where the mobs appear at. With the way XIV is set up I personally take no issue with HNMs being treated like leve mobs. Sorry spectators, it is someone else's mob. you can look, but don't touch. Make them hard, make them strategic, make them something that hacks/bots/mpk/assanine behavior can't interfere with. Inviting that element into a game that doesn't have to put up with it now seems very dangerous.
    This defeats the purpose of having Open-World HNMs. We don't want them to be instanced.
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    Last edited by ThePatriarch; 03-28-2012 at 06:59 AM.
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