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    Ahh, I see. Appearently he was making a good point, I just missed it. I never got deep int FFXI (tried it, didn't like it). Its one reason I hate how everyone all to often assumes everyone here played XI enough to always reference it. None the less, I get the intended point now, thanks.
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    Rydin's Avatar
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    Nyris Reach
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    Jenova
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    Lancer Lv 50
    I think a solo challenge NM arena would be cool
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    Pico Man
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    Masamune
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    Miner Lv 70
    With over 110 likes, i think you may have a little support OP. ^^

    Will be fun to see how/when/why/if HNM are implemented.
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    Pico Man
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    Masamune
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    I used to actually dream about seeing the words Leaping Lizzy on Widescan after doing 4-8 hour stints of camping back in the day.

    I would say though, over the course of a few years, maybe between 05-08 i used to camp Eastern Shadow in Fe' Yin for the e-Bow and only fought him three times...

    And with Argus, used to camp the hell outta him and only ever saw it defeated once in chat log after falling asleep.
    (Actually got to fight him though, returning for 2 months after 3 years out, in 2011, and got it to drop Peacock Amulet on first day of reactivation, lol.)
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    Sri Ahbayaa
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Picoman View Post
    I used to actually dream about seeing the words Leaping Lizzy on Widescan after doing 4-8 hour stints of camping back in the day.

    I would say though, over the course of a few years, maybe between 05-08 i used to camp Eastern Shadow in Fe' Yin for the e-Bow and only fought him three times...

    And with Argus, used to camp the hell outta him and only ever saw it defeated once in chat log after falling asleep.
    (Actually got to fight him though, returning for 2 months after 3 years out, in 2011, and got it to drop Peacock Amulet on first day of reactivation, lol.)
    Damn, man. I think I'm actually going to reactivate my XI account now. I miss these NMs.
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    Kazimir's Avatar
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    Chuck Lebro
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 5
    In all honesty, open-world HNM's make the world far more interesting. There are ways around MPKing, abuses, and various other issues FFXI had. We don't need windows that invite camping. What I would like is to be able to fight an awesome HNM, or just explore through a dangerous area to get a peek at one. I remember running through KRT just to take a look at Vrtra when I was pretty low level, and it was exciting. I even enjoyed watching a big group fight a dragon for an hour before I got to do it myself.

    It's one of many things this game is missing and a big reason why I've taken so many breaks since the game came out.
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    Sri Ahbayaa
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I never camped those NMs because people would think I was gimp and lazy. In my XI experience I encountered very few people with that mentality, and I didn't associate with the ones I did. I camped those lower level NMs because I actually wanted the best gear to improve my party performance while I was leveling: something you rarely encounter in XIV. I'm not sure if our XI experiences differed greatly or what, but people I encountered were usually sympathetic and didn't make you feel bad about not having a particular piece. They knew they weren't easy to come by.

    On top of that, I actually enjoyed camping those NMs, not only for the hunt, but because I knew my investment would be returned.
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    Brann Lochlan
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 50
    I don't ever recall Emp. Hairpin or Leaping boots being deemed required. I do however, remember some of the expensive crafting gear falling under that category. But that was because without sniper's rings/hauby/O. Hat (Gonna consider O. Hat crafted because you had the pop item synthed and he was 100% chance to drop but it could go either way there) you couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, not just because people were elitist jerks that would only group with you if you were decked out.

    It isn't HNM's fault that a meelee DD's base accuracy was 60%, or that without proper gear XP mob would resist a good chunk of your spells. And it only got worse on high level end game mobs. I'm pretty sure even with +40 ACC I still had maybe a 70% hit rating on the Lesser gods and like 50% on Kirin. I never did get to take a stab at them after finishing my weapon merits to see where things stood. At any rate, the point is the real problem at hand is that the bar for minimum effectiveness was high, and the amount of viable gear choices was low. It was a long time before they put lesser alternatives to the gear choices I listed in game, it was literally either those or gear that did nothing for your role in the party.
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    How about an Oversoul system ala FFX?

    Each time you kill a certain mob (Say a...Sphene Doblyn), you get a point towards a soul counter. This counter could be a tab in your attributes.

    After you've killed a certain number of them (Say...100), an NM of that type of mob spawns. (Oversoul Doblyn)

    The Oversoul'd NM would be a bit harder and have some better drops. Maybe a good yield for HQ crafting materials from lower-end mobs.

    Now, what about Oversouling NMs?

    Say you defeat Great Buffalo 10 times. After it's 10th defeat (at your hands), the Oversoul Buffalo would spawn. A bit tougher, better drops, etc.

    And then Oversoul'd Primals.

    Defeat Ifrit 10 times, the 11th time you enter the Bowl of Flames (Hard), you fight Oversoul Ifrit. MUAHAHAHAH. Blue flames! Multiple Inferno uses! AHAHAHAHA! Firaga!

    Reward: Choice of Ifrit Weapon...... or grade 5 dark matter.

    ...*ahem*

    But yea. Something akin to that.
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    Last edited by Alerith; 03-30-2012 at 04:07 PM. Reason: lulz

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    Momo Ochita
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    Defeat Ifrit 10 times, the 11th time you enter the Bowl of Flames (Hard), you fight Oversoul Ifrit. MUAHAHAHAH. Blue flames! Multiple Inferno uses! AHAHAHAHA! Firaga!

    Reward: Choice of Ifrit Weapon...... or grade 5 dark matter.

    ...*ahem*

    But yea. Something akin to that.
    Freaking idea! I hope in a Dark Matter *__* Need! lulz
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    Momo Ochita From Ragnarok

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