Highly Notorious Monsters

[Dubberrucky]

I must ask what makes being able to claim synonymous with skill above any other type of challenge? I agree give people who want them HNMs but that is not a measure of skill to get a claim it has a lot to do with luck, the fight itself should be the challenge. It is a matter of how someone wants to play and what they will put up with for a certain item (or more likely prestige) so why not make a comparable item drop for a different type of comparable challenge. Personally I wont pay a subscription fee to be bored to tears camping HNMs I would prefer a harder fight over one I must wait for but I won't deny there are those who prefer to camp them.

[Clydey]

This is a bad example as they were botted claims.... just sayin.

That is completely besides the point. I was pointing out that not everyone had the same gear.

[CrystalWeapon]

I must ask what makes being able to claim synonymous with skill above any other type of challenge? I agree give people who want them HNMs but that is not a measure of skill to get a claim it has a lot to do with luck, the fight itself should be the challenge. It is a matter of how someone wants to play and what they will put up with for a certain item (or more likely prestige) so why not make a comparable item drop for a different type of comparable challenge. Personally I wont pay a subscription fee to be bored to tears camping HNMs I would prefer a harder fight over one I must wait for but I won't deny there are those who prefer to camp them.

It's not a matter of the fight itself being a challenge, it's more of an issue of wanting to outclaim others for gear so exclusive only a handful of the population will ever obtain it. It makes them feel special to have something that the mouthbreathing casuals will more likely than not never be able to obtain. That's the real issue, just no one wants to say it outright.

I'm better, I play more often, I have more skill, and I want it to show above and beyond all other players. /thumbsup

[Sephrick]

How do you bot claim a BCNM?.... just sayin.

Kraken Club used to be dropped by Lord of Onzozo. Those of us who played XI before 2007 know that sort of stuff. That's why we remember the hours wasted camping for this junk.






Just sayin'.

[Jinko]

Put it this way, I'm as competitive as they come and that wouldn't appease me. There has to be something to compete for and I don't think the same weapon with a different look is going to cut it. People want to be able to separate themselves in myriad of different ways. If everyone essentially ends up with the same gear and/or stats, the player base becomes homogenised.

Is it wrong that the more skilled players should be rewarded? Certainly not from my perspective.

No people (like you) just want to feel superior to everyone else.

If you are that competitive maybe you should try playing a Korean PVP MMO.

Last thing I want to see is players with egos and attitudes ruining Final Fantasy.

So you would rather have everyone running around with the same gear, with no way to stand out, just so players are not forced to become better at the game? I'm sorry, but a skilled player should not be running around in the same gear as someone who can barely play the game. At least that's my view of things. It has nothing to do with wanting to stand on a pedestal, but rather it has everything to do with effort and skill yielding reward.

Yea because someone who barely plays the game is going to be running around in a full set of Darklight gear right ?

Come on be serious.

I must ask what makes being able to claim synonymous with skill above any other type of challenge? I agree give people who want them HNMs but that is not a measure of skill to get a claim it has a lot to do with luck, the fight itself should be the challenge. It is a matter of how someone wants to play and what they will put up with for a certain item (or more likely prestige) so why not make a comparable item drop for a different type of comparable challenge. Personally I wont pay a subscription fee to be bored to tears camping HNMs I would prefer a harder fight over one I must wait for but I won't deny there are those who prefer to camp them.

This hits the nail on the head, there is no difference between a boss in an instance and a boss roaming the open world besides luck in getting the claim.

Either monster can be tuned to be difficult the funny thing is as it stands open world bosses can be killed by help from outside the party.

Where is the challenge in that ?

[Alerith]

How do you bot claim a BCNM?.... just sayin.

There was a time when those items didn't come from BCNMs. He may be referring to the open world NMs that dropped them.

[Clydey]

I must ask what makes being able to claim synonymous with skill above any other type of challenge? I agree give people who want them HNMs but that is not a measure of skill to get a claim it has a lot to do with luck, the fight itself should be the challenge. It is a matter of how someone wants to play and what they will put up with for a certain item (or more likely prestige) so why not make a comparable item drop for a different type of comparable challenge. Personally I wont pay a subscription fee to be bored to tears camping HNMs I would prefer a harder fight over one I must wait for but I won't deny there are those who prefer to camp them.

It isn't. I'm referring to my suggestion of a skill-based claiming system.

[Exn]

Kraken Club used to be dropped by Lord of Onzozo. Those of us who played XI before 2007 know that sort of stuff. That's why we remember the hours wasted camping for this junk.

This guy.

We also don't know how you bot claim a BCNM. And we also wouldn't complain about not being able to get a claim on a mob that pop's every 24hours in a 3 (or 4? it's been awhile..) hour window on exact 30minute intervals over the course of seven years..

Just sayin?

[Clydey]

No people (like you) just want to feel superior to everyone else.

If you are that competitive maybe you should try playing a Korean PVP MMO.

Last thing I want to see is players with egos and attitudes ruining Final Fantasy.

And I here I thought a rational discussion would be possible. Instead we get mud-slinging from people who refuse to see a different perspective.

I am not looking to feel superior. I am looking for a meritocratic system. I didn't realise meritocracy was such a controversial concept.

[MellowMarsh]

Only if the items dropped are able to be sold, then I am all for this. (I was thf in XI >.>)