Highly Notorious Monsters

[Abhayaa]

I don't have a problem with most of the content being instanced. If that's what the majority of people want, then maybe that should be the majority of content. However, 20% is also a number worth paying attention to. There is /no reason/ why we can't have mostly instanced content while still creating the interesting and dynamic open world that 20% or more of players want. Players can participate in what they want. Rewards can be roughly equal between players wanting to participate in only instanced content versus those who want to participate in both. Powerful items from an HNM scene can have their rough equivalent dropped in instanced raids.

But there's little denying that the current open world is pretty bland. I'm looking forward to the zone redesigns, but NMs that are not always sitting up (and NMs that drop crafting materials as well as the exclusive items) would help greatly to spice it up. Instance raids are good and fun, but when you only have things happening in instances the rest of the world becomes stagnant and dull. Having NMs that rotate spawn times or placeholders help make sure there's always something going on. It creates a more realistic, dynamic world which has a direct effect on the entire psychology of the game.

[Sephrick]

I don't have a problem with most of the content being instanced. If that's what the majority of people want, then maybe that should be the majority of content. However, 20% is also a number worth paying attention to. There is /no reason/ why we can't have mostly instanced content while still creating the interesting and dynamic open world that 20% or more of players want. Players can participate in what they want. Rewards can be roughly equal between players wanting to participate in only instanced content versus those who want to participate in both. Powerful items from an HNM scene can have their rough equivalent dropped in instanced raids.

But there's little denying that the current open world is pretty bland. I'm looking forward to the zone redesigns, but NMs that are not always sitting up (and NMs that drop crafting materials as well as the exclusive items) would help greatly to spice it up. Instance raids are good and fun, but when you only have things happening in instances the rest of the world becomes stagnant and dull. Having NMs that rotate spawn times or placeholders help make sure there's always something going on. It creates a more realistic, dynamic world which has a direct effect on the entire psychology of the game.

We keep saying to just make rewards equal but there's a handful of posters that want their toys to be shinier.

If only everyone was as mature as you.

[Peptaru]

Taru in great buffalo skull helm! TOO HEAVY TO WALK IN THIS THANG!

[Jinko]

Taru in great buffalo skull helm! TOO HEAVY TO WALK IN THIS THANG!

You could put wheels on that and drive round in it.

@abhayaa
I think it's way more than 20% though, it's like I said why would people who had quit vote on it? and it's still something that's seen as a negative but makes the game better so even if the other 80% thinks they don't want it I'm sure half of those would enjoy it.

Well yea you can think what you like, but the numbers we have are probably more accurate than your bias opinion.

I quit during the period of the second poll and I have voted on all 3 polls because I am interested in how the game turns out, I assume those players you refer to are doing the same, if they aren't then maybe they have no intention of ever coming back.... which means their opinion does not matter.

[ArnoMorley]

You could put wheels on that and drive round in it.



Well yea you can think what you like, but the numbers we have are probably more accurate than your bias opinion.

I think I make a valid point lol. Call it biased if you want, at least I can give reasons as to why I think it's wrong and not just say "You're biased!"


If something looks negative people will shoot it down. It's like this whole issue with government spending, spending's actually a good thing because it stimulates the economy, everytime the budget's been balanced it's caused a recession.

There was an earmark a few decades back spending millions to research a flea out west, sounds stupid right? Well this flea was killing off cattle, if the cattle industry had gone under it would have devastated the economy. But recently there was a big fight to end earmarks, people just look at them and think they're wasteful spending because they don't understand the good that they did. (who knows what industries will suffer because of it)

I think that's why you can't poll players about things such as claim wars or a death penalty that look negative, just looking at it people will think it's bad and shoot it down. People are voting against it that don't understand the benefits of it.

[Rydin]

"You're biast!"

And you're a Drake!!!!!

[Sephrick]

I think I make a valid point lol. Call it biased if you want, at least I can give reasons as to why I think it's wrong and not just say "You're biased!"


If something looks negative people will shoot it down. It's like this whole issue with government spending, spending's actually a good thing because it stimulates the economy, everytime the budget's been balanced it's caused a recession.

There was an earmark a few decades back spending millions to research a flea out west, sounds stupid right? Well this flea was killing off cattle, if the cattle industry had gone under it would have devastated the economy. But recently there was a big fight to end earmarks, people just look at them and think they're wasteful spending because they don't understand the good that they did. (who knows what industries will suffer because of it)

I think that's why you can't poll players about things such as claim wars or a death penalty that look negative, just looking at it people will think it's bad and shoot it down. People are voting against it that don't understand the benefits of it.

There are no benefits to claim wars and exp loss that can't be replicated by other means.

And comparing endgame on an MMO to the complexities of a nation's deficit is hardly a sound basis. Families don't starve if there's no claim wars in XIV.

If people are experiencing content too fast, SE can put longer cool downs on the instances. If people are just diving on the swords and not fearing death then SE can make it so a wipe boots you from the instance with the full cool down in effect.

But in the end, SE knows what their game needs more than you do.

[ArnoMorley]

There are no benefits to claim wars and exp loss that can't be replicated by other means.

And comparing endgame on an MMO to the complexities of a nation's deficit is hardly a sound basis. Families don't starve if there's no claim wars in XIV.

If people are experiencing content too fast, SE can put longer cool downs on the instances. If people are just diving on the swords and not fearing death then SE can make it so a wipe boots you from the instance with the full cool down in effect.

But in the end, SE knows what their game needs more than you do.

You're missing the point, the point was people don't understand what they're asking for. The point wasn't about what's on the line. They're similar in the fact they think something's bad when it's not.

And I should hope that they know more considering it's their job. Unfortunately on many issues I think they lack good judgement.

[Exni]

But in the end, SE knows what their game needs more than you do.

And certainly way more than you do as well..

A heavily instanced game with a dead open-world will keep XIV from ever thriving. Alot of games already do that ALOT better, not to mention XI was the MMO that actually had a great grasp on how to make open-world challenging and exciting. You can claim it was all "easy".. but if you do that in comparison to the instanced stuff we've got in XIV right now.. you just destroyed your own arguement and can feel free to sell that crap to someone who's crazy enough to believe it. Either that or you didn't even really play XI, which is just another reason to gloss over your posts as just more heavily opinionated rambling..

[Maxthunder]

I myself would like some open world nm's/hmn's. I am not a big fan of every dungeon being an instance so far. I find that other than the few nm's that are in the open world more are needed. No matter what is done there will always be claim wars over open world nm's/hmn's, but that dose not mean dont add them or add them to instances only. FFXIV needs more variety , but not in 1 form that is prevailent so far and that is instance dungeons.