If running a parser makes you cynical and depressed, why do it?

[Lambdafish]

I'm confused, is the OP talking about dungeons or savage? parsing in dungeons I can understand the point of this thread, but if it concerns savage then I'll answer simply with:

"Why do it? So that we as a group know how to beat Titan's enrage"

It's as simple as that.

[CrimsonGunner]

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i guess it does sound a bit petronizing when it was actually to try and calm you. my bad

i guess that sentence about minimal and 0 effort wasn't clear as well
i meant that dungeons are easy enough for us to go through it with minimal effort(meaning no need to optimize our skills) but there is a different between that and doing 0 effort in dungeons meaning someone who tries to get carried on purpose and that isn't ok ,again my fault for not expressing it good enough .

i agree with you that there is needing to be a certain level of effort you need to put depending on the content and its level of difficulty.
but i don't agree with you about that if you do dungeons(only on them) then its wrong if you are not doing it on a full knowing and using your kit level.
as long as you and the party clearing the dungeon and it doesn't bother them or ruin the runs then its ok if you under perform however if it does bother them then improve during the run or expect to be kicked out of it.(for a healer it is more noticeable cause if he slacks off too much,he causes a wipe). even on high level dungeons cause there are also people who either use jump potions or just leveling to get it over with ,so as long they just carry their part in the party ,its fine for me however if not then expect me to vote kick you and if the party bothers me ,then "see you guys im going to queue" .

[SerLuke]

I'm confused, is the OP talking about dungeons or savage? parsing in dungeons I can understand the point of this thread, but if it concerns savage then I'll answer simply with:

"Why do it? So that we as a group know how to beat Titan's enrage"

It's as simple as that.

Dungeons, I don’t run savage

[TaranTatsuuchi]

I always do try and perform well.

I look up guides on the balance discord for jobs I intend to play.
I practice a bit on a dummy when I haven't played for a while or am feeling rusty.

I support the existance of parsers, and wouldn't mind an official one.
Goodness knows dps players aren't getting any performance feedback from the game itself.



I don't parse.
I don't want to deal with running one.
When the anti parser argument inevitably crops up, I check the log sites and see that I still have no parses.


As soneone who tries to be as useful as possible, I can understand how people would get upset when they see others putting in little effort.

It's why the 'idle healer' argument keeps popping up again and again.
People just don't like when it feels like others are taking advantage of their efforts without showing effort themselves.

[Lambdafish]

Dungeons, I don’t run savage

People don't need a parser to know if tank damage is low or DPS numbers are low, you just need to see the rotation they are doing. Low numbers = slow runs, so poor play is not what people want. The only use for a parser I have ever seen in a dungeon is people trying to perfect their DPS rotations in a safe real combat environment, and that has nothing to do with other players.

[Pehrah]

Not only that i use it to see if i can run my class better in dungeons, in the off chance i end up with another player using the same class i can see what they are doing and to see if there is a gear difference so i can change up what im doing

[Baka_Neko1]

Sometimes you just gotta flex when you're at 24k dps at the end of a dungeon and the next closest is more than 10k below you /shrug

[MitsukiKimura]

Self Improvement
People who brag about their numbers end up on my blacklist/ignore

[Schan]

People don't need a parser to know if tank damage is low or DPS numbers are low, you just need to see the rotation they are doing. Low numbers = slow runs

As someone who is too lazy for parsers and has the memory of a goldfish and struggles to memorize mechanics (to me doing each run of savage is pretty much like doing it for the first time) I can tell when a dps is underperforming simply because something feels off. It's like my body has an internal clock that goes off when things are taking longer. Dungeons have a certain rythm to them and when its thrown off I know.

So please SerLuke don't assume that people who know that there is a DPS underperforming are using parsers. I personally know it on my gut. Probably due to the experience i have with this game. (Sorry i can't explain it better)

Self Improvement
People who brag about their numbers end up on my blacklist/ignore

I've never seen anyone brag about their numbers... at least not ingame.

[Goji1639]

Because it doesn't depress them at all.

They act like seeing someone doing bad numbers is upsetting, but in reality it's validation. I'm guessing they don't get the opportunity to "feel superior" to other people much in real life, so they need this.