I'll repeat myself by saying that this "beating someone over their head with their numbers"-thing is a something I dont ever recall seeing in a random DF-group. I'm not completly sure that it never happend, because I cant recall each and every one of the thousands of runs I did in the past 6 years, but it surely isnt something that happens frequently, at least not in my experience.
You seem way more obsessed with this idea that people use parsers as an ego-boost by putting other people down than people actually obsessing about numbers...
You're seeing what you want to see - you made up your mind about people who care about their performance and expect others to do the same. We might have different ideas about what "caring about your teammates" includes - for me it includes that you are trying your best and if that best is far from the reasonable expectation at your level, you show that you're trying to improve. Its not about wasted time for me, its about playing in a way that shows you're respecting your teammates time - thats a difference! I dont care if a dungeon takes 15 minutes or 25 as long as I see everyone put in an appropriate amount of effort, either with their performance or through communication if there is a problem to show that you care about the team. You can call me sensitive here, but it feels kinda "disrespectful" to play this game with people who have an attitude of "I dont need to learn/look up my rotation, I dont need to update my gear and I play how I want" - and in my experience those are far more common than the parser-jerks you're talking about or the people who are severly underperforming due to some sort of illness or disability.
You're reaching for extremes here again, while using those people as some sort of scapegoat - let me just tell you that I've seen quite a few threads from people with disabilities here and they were mostly asking what job would be best for them to play in order to not "hold back" their team - not because they were worried about being called out or kicked, but because they wanted to make sure to contribute as best as they could because they cared about the people they'd be playing with.
I would also like to point out that if you got your impression from the forums, and specially the "Share a DF story"-thread, that this is a place people come to to vent - often right in the moment when they're either still really upset or maybe feeling really good about themself, probably because they've got a reason to feel that way right now. I doubt that most of those people who vent run around with a god-complex. I can assure you that even after sharing that story I'm not having a god-complex and dont look down on people who are still trying to learn - as long as they do that. I am looking down on people who clearly show that they dont care at all - you know, the "You dont pay my sub!"-crowd. But not because of their performance, but because of their attitude.
...okay, I got slightly offtrack here, but what I was trying to say is this: You're probably looking at a glimpse of a persons experience with the game and draw conclusions from there that might simply not be true. People who share parser information in the DF-thread to point out how bad excatly that guy was doing. Someone whos sharing a story like that - and is rightfully annoyed by someones severe underperfomance (again, I want to make clear that I'm not talking about the difference between an orange and a purple parse but between "doing okay for level 80" and "doing okay if this was still level 60... at level 80") - isnt necessarly someone whos shaming that person over their numbers. Its also not necessarly someone whos getting "depressed" over parsers either - and since you brought up disabilities I'd like to mention again how bad that choice of a word there is...
In my experience it has a lot more to do with peoples attitudes and behaviour than just with pure parser-numbers. Those are often just what breaks the camels back.
It has a lot more to do with whos showing they care - and who doesnt. Numbers can be one indicator of that: Bad numbers show that you dont care enough about your performance to put in that little bit of effort to figure out how to play that job properly and by doing so you're accepting that every group you get paired with in DF will "suffer".
And I'm sorry, thats just not an attitude I find acceptable and I'll never understand why people do that. This idea that this is "just a game" always seems like an excuse to me that just doesnt work. Of course its just a game, but why does that prevent you from putting a minimum amount of effort and care into it? I'm rambling right now, because I'm at a total loss... when I spend time with something - be it a game or any other hobby - I care about that and make sure to do it "right" - I've thrown away 30 hours of a cross stitch project because I made an unfixable mistake, because I cared about getting it right instead of just going "well, whatever". So, I'm doing the same when I'm playing the game: Trying to get things right.
So thats why I cant see why its so unreasonable to expect other people to at least try to reach a minimum amount fo "getting it right".
I dont mean to look down on people who are obviously pretty oblivious of what they're doing, but I can absolutly not understand them. I suppose being ignorant of things that effect not only me but other people too is just not something I can relate to or sympathise with.



Reply With Quote

