How would they even make another healer job though?

[Kazrah]

While this seems to be a good generalization, it's a bit inaccurate. SCH doesn't have a Large heal, nor does it have an AoE heal, but it does have the faerie to compensate for the lack of those skills. One could argue overlap in certain areas, but seeing as both AST and WHM have individual skills that fall into the specific categories you listed, the skills SCHs lack cannot be ignored. This is what makes SCH the outlier, which isnt bad, but it's why SCH is a bit more difficult to balance compared to the other two.

Just like Jandor said, Adloquium and Succor serve as the large heal and AoE heal respectively, which is understandable to miss because of how often players forget that damage absorption effects do indeed qualify as healing. The main reason why they are harder to balance compared to standard healing abilities is because it can circumvent the usual ceiling for heals that is "overhealing", and this game isn't the only one that has had to deal with such an issue of balance (discipline priests in WoW say hi). To further impact this for Scholar specifically, there are other balance issues such as factoring in the Adloquium critical effect and faerie abilities that can be used while casting other heals.

[Eloah]

SCH has a large heal and an AoE heal, they're rather different in that half of the potency is wrapped up in shields, but they still fit in the "big heal" and "aoe heal" categories IMHO.

Cure II is 700 potency, Adloquium is 300 potency plus 375 potency as a shield, for 675 potency total. Both cost 1000MP.

Medica is 300 potency, Succor is 180 potency plus a 225 potency shield, for 405 potency total. Medica is 1000MP and Succor is 1300MP.

Just like Jandor said, Adloquium and Succor serve as the large heal and AoE heal respectively, which is understandable to miss because of how often players forget that damage absorption effects do indeed qualify as healing. The main reason why they are harder to balance compared to standard healing abilities is because it can circumvent the usual ceiling for heals that is "overhealing", and this game isn't the only one that has had to deal with such an issue of balance (discipline priests in WoW say hi). To further impact this for Scholar specifically, there are other balance issues such as factoring in the Adloquium critical effect and faerie abilities that can be used while casting other heals.

I knew there would be confusion unless I explained further, was hoping that wouldn't be the case, but meh. Based on the categories that were given, Adloquium and Succor would fall under the Specialty Heal and AoE Specialty Heal. SCH doesn't have a true equivalent to Crue II, Benefic II, the Large Heals, or Medica and Helios, the AoE heals. That is why I indicated that the faerie is meant to make up for the lack of those skills, and that there is some overlap in these categories, depending on how you wish to view them. Plus why balancing is a bit problematic, since the faerie is MP free, and other things. But regardless, SCH does not have either of those skills, Adloquium is a Regen and Aspected Benefic equivalent and Succor a Medica II and Aspected Helios one.

[Jandor]

I knew there would be confusion unless I explained further, was hoping that wouldn't be the case, but meh.

That's a rather pretentious way to start a reply...

[Duskane]

Healer but with a rifle

[AriaEnia]

I thought they're gonna make Geomancer or Chemist as the new healer.

[Mansion]

Ideas and creativity are not the problem here, there's plenty in the FF world and outside to flesh out a new healer job. Just like dancer could have been one if steps had a mudra like effect that would trigger heals etc.

I would not mind no new healer if SCH WHM and AST got a major revamp that would change them so much that they don't feel so identical.
But that's what I expected from ShB, and that's not what we got.

[Barraind]

Theres only like, 15 or 16 ways you can heal in an MMO, clearly 3 is where the line must be drawn.

[Jandor]

While this seems to be a good generalization, it's a bit inaccurate. SCH doesn't have a Large heal, nor does it have an AoE heal, but it does have the faerie to compensate for the lack of those skills.

SCH has a large heal and an AoE heal, they're rather different in that half of the potency is wrapped up in shields, but they still fit in the "big heal" and "aoe heal" categories IMHO.

Cure II is 700 potency, Adloquium is 300 potency plus 375 potency as a shield, for 675 potency total. Both cost 1000MP.

Medica is 300 potency, Succor is 180 potency plus a 225 potency shield, for 405 potency total. Medica is 1000MP and Succor is 1300MP.

[Kisshu]

Maybe they should look outside XIV for inspiration for other healers.

They could take the samba system from FFXI's DNC. Apply a status on the enemy, and when people damage the enemy they are healed. This could be used instead of the standard AoE regen spell, but having a downside of not healing when the enemy is untargetable.
Make it a Darkness aligned healer. Give it a 0-100 blood guage that interact with another debuff. When the debuff is applied to the enemy and the enemy is damaged by any party members, it fills the blood guage. Then the guage can be used to power stronger healing spells.
This would create a healer that uses the party to power their healing.

Could also have a healer that uses oGCD-cooldowns to boost their spells. Turn Esuna into AoE instead of single target, or boost Esuna to remove all debuffs from a single target(like a tank getting hit by Bad Breath). Another oGCD ability could be making regen spell last longer but at the cost of more MP, or shorter duration but with stronger healing per tick. The healer have to use the oGCDs strategically for best usage as they can't be spammed.

[testname]

I mean... we have one that regens, we've got one that shields, and we've got another one that can do either.

so what is the 4th healer even going to do? :v

Imagination Fantasy and Virtual worlds has no borders, I have many ideas, as many other people,

First of my head, leach blood/life from opponent to heal your party members