Anyone else concerned by the extremely low skill ceiling?

[JunseiKei]

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The fact that they were over-tuned or bugged isn't really of consequence for what I was trying to point out. The time investment to clear in this game is fairly minimal while also not discounting other outside factors (IE: Midas was the tier before CD resets upon wipe. It cannot be overstated just how much that cut down on progression time). To say this tier is this much easier because it was killed faster, since you took the liberty of posting Eden's clear time, or because the jobs became less convoluted seems insincere as all previous tiers of Creator were bloated by CD timers waiting to be ticked off.

Also, a correction to your all of 4.0 raids took 18 hours: I have to point out that O12S did take 41 hours to clear while A12S took 50 hours. If the clear time in savage, or that it seems easier by a select bunch of individuals that are, indeed, a niche, is simply unacceptable, it begs me to question why ultimates were created if the difficulty change to savage is still being pushed. It comes off as a blatant case of trying to have your cake and eat it too.

As far as PotD being sold, to say it's taken this long, if that is a new offer, is quite surprising as ultimates have been on sale for quite some time if party finder is any indication. Again, it just strikes me as you're being really insincere with certain things to simply push a narrative.

My point here was what is in an accomplishment when things are cleared quickly by the overachievers? The difficulty has been first figuring out the fights, not actually doing them since you can pre-plan everything before stepping into an encounter if you know what's coming up because someone else has actually done the hard work (and yes, I understand there is still a difference between knowing and execution). Also, to point out, I've never seen a group of random people die 13 times and still clear Innocence or Titania. I could certainly see that with a bunch of high-end raiders that do things together and still learning the fight, or even a couple of high-end players with some randoms, still clearing. I think, when comparing the entirety of the game and problems going on at large, people tend toward something out of proportion to what is more likely to occur to exacerbate their point.

EDIT: If people are really wanting a challenge, FFLogs Challenge is a thing.