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    IndyRevolutions's Avatar
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    Azure Revolutions
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    Samurai Lv 80

    Why are there no sources of EXP for crafters below 50?

    Been trying to get all my crafters to 50 as of late and good lord it is terrible. Once you finish up using all your Beast Tribes on the Ixali and do the GC turn in.... What do you do then? There's no way to make EXP other than to spam levequests which isn't much of a choice once you use them all up, and people recommend leveling all the crafters at once???

    Sorry for the rant, it's just so frustrating to have been working near exclusively on weaver and burning all my leves on NQ stuff since it's basically impossible to HQ without a high level friend.

    (Also, this extends to DoL as well, but that's a story for another time.)
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    Jowy Khah
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    Zodiark
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    You've just written them all.

    Ixals
    Levequests

    If you want an easier time crafting HQ, I advise you get all others to level 15, there are some nifty cross class skills available which will help with that.

    The only thing that changes over 50, is you get scrip exchange, which is awful for crafters imo and the weekly deliveries which is only about 1 level or so a week.

    Question - Have you crafted every entry in your weaving crafting log? The passive exp gained from crafting each item for the first time as well as the number of silks and threads you'll have to craft in order to make the final recipes will easily level you.
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  3. #3
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    I suppose my main issue is that the main sources of crafter EXP are time gated since Beast Tribes are 12 a day and Levequests are 6* a day.

    Been working on the crafting log, yeah, but it's extremely tedious with the crafting of prereq. materials.

    also how is how hard it is to consistently HQ items when on level. That +100% bonus to levequest rewards is such a massive bonus it feels like a waste not to take advantage of it.
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    Last edited by IndyRevolutions; 09-25-2019 at 02:52 PM.

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    Sylvestre Solscribe
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    Arguably any high lv crafter can quickly craft for you levequest items in HQ. I did they for a friend ans in 15min he went from the ~30 to 50
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    Belmont Blanc
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    Masamune
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    Warrior Lv 90
    - finishing crafting log (crafting things you never crafted yet) give bonus exp.
    - the more quality, the more exp gain for each craft.

    hope those help but best is turnin leve HQ, it's not impossible.
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    Kemiko Oyung
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 100
    As someone who had all crafters to 50 before 2.1 this is painful to read as the only experience available then was actually crafting, levequests and GC turn ins.

    Ixali, prior to 50, are great but other than those options, that's it. Thankfully though, you can easily stack xp buffs to quicken your general crafting xp. Challenge Log xp is a weekly benefit, as well as first time completion of any item crafted (even comes with achievements). Food xp buffs, FC crafting buff (if your FC prefers other active buffs you can always use GC Crafting manuals in place of it) and crafting stations at your FC house if your FC owns one.

    GC turn ins and levequests double xp rewards for HQ - meaning you'll always want to. It'll save you on levequest expenditure and sky rocket your leveling progress. Back when I cheesed crafting levels with levequests it was only about 5-7 HQ turn ins per 8-10 levels. Unlike how people cheese the crafting levequest system from 60+ you'll want to only use the highest grossing bracket available to you. If your crafter is lv15 and only have lv15 levequests available, find the largest xp payout levequest and spam that sucker with hq turn ins until you unlock the door next bracket.

    99 levequests should be more than enough to get at least 3 crafting classes to 50 with proper planning and resources. It'll slow down for everything else afterwards as levequests is the absolute fastest method but if you really wanted to 50 all crafting classes quickly it's easily doable. If anything you'll run out of shards and crystals before anything else in the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyRevolutions View Post
    also how is how hard it is to consistently HQ items when on level. That +100% bonus to levequest rewards is such a massive bonus it feels like a waste not to take advantage of it.
    Now I think about it, it's rather curious they only applied the 75% HQ bonus from using all HQ mats to ShB recipes (which are by a mile the easiest to 100% from NQ mats), instead of everything below which would be a nice boost for levelers. They got that a bit mixed up.
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    Krystalan Deathgiver
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 80
    You could wait until 5.1, they're planning an overhaul on crafter skills and specifically eliminating cross class skills form crafters. Should be easier after the update.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quick synthing mats then making one of every item in the crafting log for the first time completion bonus is a fair chunk of XP toward leveling. Don't worry about whether the result is HQ (unless you're going for the leve turn-ins) but do try to increase quality as much as you can since that impacts how much XP you get for making an item.

    As Deathgiver says, I wouldn't push to level right now unless you have a specific reason to. Wait for 5.1 when they're going to implement an overhaul to crafting to make it easier for players to get into it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Now I think about it, it's rather curious they only applied the 75% HQ bonus from using all HQ mats to ShB recipes (which are by a mile the easiest to 100% from NQ mats), instead of everything below which would be a nice boost for levelers. They got that a bit mixed up.
    Even at low levels, XP earned is based off how much the player increases quality during crafting and not the end quality. I figured that out when I started on my third character and focused on making housing items to level. I don't feel it's a bad design choice since it emphasizes using your CP effectively to get quality over relying on HQ materials. It does make things a bit harder for the novice crafter trying to figure out how it all works.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 09-26-2019 at 08:33 AM.

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    Alya Mizar
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 72
    GC turnins.

    Ixal turnins.

    Quick synthing materials with an engineering manual.

    Filling out your crafting log.

    Making stuff that you can sell.
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