Thread: It's nice to see our feedback actually made a difference

Eh, I wouldn't necessarily say they're fast to respond to feedback. They're demonstrably pretty slow to address player problems with design, and not just in the "There's only a major patch every 6 months" way either. They'll sometimes take up to a year to fix a problem with a job after identifying it. Worse, if the devs are married to some aspect of job's design, they'll dig in their heels, stick their head in the sand, and dismiss player concerns about it even if the playerbase is extremely vocal about not liking it unless the playerbase starts burning down the forums.

There's plenty of examples of this too. Heavensward Bowmage stuck around for two years even though it was extremely unpopular. Riddle of Fire's slow was immediately super unpopular in Stormblood to the point that the devs said "If the player outcry is bad enough we'll change it" in a 4.1 Q&A, but the devs not only kept it for the rest of Stormblood, but were intending to keep it through Shadowbringers as well. If you look at the interviews that touch on Monk in the media tour, they simultaneously acknowledge that we absolutely despised it and identify why we despised it and then defend why it's necessary rather than something to be corrected. It got fixed in 5.05, but it took basically the entire Monk playerbase rioting in every region of the forum and beyond.

And those are just examples the devs being slow to act. Ten Chi Jin freezing Ninja in place on use is extremely unpopular as well, but not only is it not changing; the devs specifically mentioned that it is remaining the same in the recent live letter which IMO is an acknowledgement of how little people like it. Monk is (unsurprisingly) another example of that, we hated the double layered RNG of Deep Meditation in Stormblood and instead of it getting fixed we got another trait that only minorly boosted our procs off crits instead of eliminating the RNG aspect entirely, and Brotherhood still makes Monk suffer if there's more casters in a party than is normal which was another complaint people had in Stormblood. A more extreme example: Tornado Kick. It's one of the coolest animations in the game full stop and it's extremely satisfying to use, but the devs are determined for it to only be a "The Boss is jumping, dump your stacks!" button, and when the players found a way to use it as something other than that in 4.2 they responded by undoing one of the best quality of life changes Monk had ever received and nerfed PB’s cooldown back to absurdity instead of changing TK to be used in some other manner.

Also if you've got a major problem with how your job plays or performs, you'd better hope that the devs get on it soon because if it isn't fixed in by X.2 then you're pretty much guaranteed to have to wait until the next expansion for the fix.

One issue is that they are working with multiple patches ahead of them already complete. Other than a couple emergency potency changes they can't really adjust the mechanics behind skills and abilities right away. The next patch including changes to moves, are completed, built, and ready to roll out by the time we get the previous one. Their distribution methods mean more consistent patches but also takes more to respond to requests.

It's nice, but it's better for people to hold of relief until after the patch notes because they will more likely just readjust potencies to avoid several major overhauls to entire job designs, which was like 5.0, hopefully

Originally Posted by Ramura_Sono

Now if only they were this quick to react to feedback for other jobs too.

or entire roles at points /hmm

Originally Posted by Ramura_Sono

Now if only they were this quick to react to feedback for other jobs too.

*Cries in SCH*

Originally Posted by Billythepancake

*Cries in SCH*

*Cries twin waterfalls in AST*

* Cries an entire Ocean for Red Mage *