2P Skin Color

[Anselmet]

Imagine trying to argue that a character is 'tan' as opposed to brown, as if tanned people don't appear as a shade of brown.

May I introduce you to the female Swedish soccer team? All darker than 2P's Soul Caliber character design, btw. Still considered white.

[FeliAiko]

Swedish female team

Yeah... no.

https://imgur.com/9SwXyim

Please point out the squad number of whoever it is that's "darker" than the above, because you need to re-calibrate your notion of what makes one 'dark'.

The difference is one is temporary and induced by the sun, the other is not.

Both circumstances, when applied to a character design/aesthetic, will result in one that appears as a shade of brown. Hence why you get the contrast between 2B and 2P as linked above. Trying to split hairs by going 'she's not brown, she's tan' just makes you lot arguing the case look stupid.

[GrumbleBeard]

Trying to split hairs by going 'she's not brown, she's tan' just makes you lot arguing the case look stupid.

Everyone knows that tan is a shade of brown, but "brown" the shade and "brown" the term for non-white skin tones are completely different. Especially when the argument is about inclusivity and "white-washing" lol

[FeliAiko]

Everyone knows that tan is a shade of brown, but "brown" the shade and "brown" the term for non-white skin tones are completely different. Especially when the argument is about inclusivity and "white-washing" lol

I get that the OP had 'skin colour' in the thread title, but it had nothing to do with race when you actually read the thread. What simply should've been 'yeah I don't get why it's changed either since she looks different in-game', suddenly went to claiming how androids can't have an ethnicity (yet proceeding to claim her as looking Caucasian anyway), to trying to split hairs over the difference between being tanned or otherwise.

[Anselmet]

Yeah... no.

Please point out the squad number of whoever it is that's "darker" than the above, because you need to re-calibrate your notion of what makes one 'dark'.

Every single member of that team is darker than the example you provided.

Trying to split hairs by going 'she's not brown, she's tan' just makes you lot arguing the case look stupid.

Excuse me who is stupid?

went to claiming how androids can't have an ethnicity (yet proceeding to claim her as looking Caucasian anyway), to trying to split hairs over the difference between being tanned or otherwise.

Actually, what I said before the mods took my post down was that the art style depicts no racial features. I also said that just because you project your idea that she is poc doesn't mean she suddenly is bc I can easily project she's white.

And bc people seem to make it an issue in this thread, hi hello, I'm a mixed person.

[FeliAiko]

Every single member of that team is darker than the example you provided.

Sure if you say so, mate.

Excuse me who is stupid?

Still you.

"...become brown or browner"

Now let's review what I said in that same post:

Both circumstances, when applied to a character design/aesthetic, will result in one that appears as a shade of brown.

Good job missing the point.

Actually, what I said before the mods took my post down

Don't think I saw your post, and I wasn't referring to you anyway.

And bc people seem to make it an issue in this thread, hi hello, I'm a mixed person.

Good for you. Still missed the point of all this, by thinking the topic was a race issue and not simply a question about a change in character aesthetic.

[Anselmet]

Good for you. Still missed the point of all this, by thinking the topic was a race issue and not simply a question about a change in character aesthetic.

What the literal- I have been arguing that it isn't a race issue you muddled chicken. Good grief!

[FeliAiko]

What the literal- I have been arguing that it isn't a race issue

...because you erroneously thought that the topic (or even the points I raised) was a race issue and not simply a question about a change in character aesthetic. Yes, I know.

Your whole all-white football team picture and dictionary screencap was obviously you thinking I viewed 'tanned' and 'brown' people as one and the same racially and wanting to 'dispute' it... when I was referring to the 2P aesthetic because either way, you're getting a brown-toned character.

That's the point you missed. Now I'm done with you.

No, it only makes anyone trying to argue it's "whitewashing" look stupid.

To my knowledge no rational person is actually claiming it's whitewashing. Even when I mentioned it I was being facetious. Meanwhile, it's obvious the 'tanned not brown' argument was in retaliation to the 'brown skin' in the thread title since, typically, when it comes to these things people generally just read the title jump to conclusions and then start projecting and blowing things up.

[Lauront]

Both circumstances, when applied to a character design/aesthetic, will result in one that appears as a shade of brown. Hence why you get the contrast between 2B and 2P as linked above. Trying to split hairs by going 'she's not brown, she's tan' just makes you lot arguing the case look stupid.

No, it only makes anyone trying to argue it's "whitewashing" look stupid.