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  1. 10-22-2019 01:02 AM
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarlyMakara View Post
    You can type in caps lock all you want, but that doesn't change the fact your entire existence in this thread seems to simply be telling people "No, you're wrong."
    Caps = emphasizing what I am saying bc as with this post you are glossing over things to get w.e high ground your seeking for. So let me get this straight me pointing out that western standards and concepts do not work in Japan is bad of me? Oh, I'm sorry I'll let you onto the coddle train and continue so you can continue perpetuate misinformation and keep yourself in your snuggy wuggy banket.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarlyMakara View Post
    My personal favourite moment was when you decided to call someone who is presumably black, "As bad as the Colonialist Brits".
    My personal favorite is that you and them have decided I am white even tho I have stated I'm not. If you cannot find the irony of someone complaining about European colonialism and then push to have their cultural norms onto a Japanese company, then I cannot help you.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarlyMakara View Post
    Kinda like how anyone who is against fascism is somehow as bad as them..? Never understood those kinds of statements, since it was very clear which side was the wrong side.
    Clearly you don't know which is the bad side. Your feels are greater than a group of people and their culture. I'll let Japan know.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarlyMakara View Post
    TL;DR You came into the thread to hold up a stop-sign, rather than contribute. If you don't like it here, just leave?
    No.
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    Imagine trying to argue that a character is 'tan' as opposed to brown, as if tanned people don't appear as a shade of brown.

    Anyways, let's see how it turns out when patch drops and if it is indeed been 'whitewashed' then it is what it is. Up to this point '2P' has been nothing but a 2B colour variant, so if the designers want to take that inspiration and change a few things around then that's their choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FeliAiko View Post
    Imagine trying to argue that a character is 'tan' as opposed to brown, as if tanned people don't appear as a shade of brown.
    May I introduce you to the female Swedish soccer team? All darker than 2P's Soul Caliber character design, btw. Still considered white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anselmet View Post
    Swedish female team
    Yeah... no.

    https://imgur.com/9SwXyim

    Please point out the squad number of whoever it is that's "darker" than the above, because you need to re-calibrate your notion of what makes one 'dark'.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    The difference is one is temporary and induced by the sun, the other is not.
    Both circumstances, when applied to a character design/aesthetic, will result in one that appears as a shade of brown. Hence why you get the contrast between 2B and 2P as linked above. Trying to split hairs by going 'she's not brown, she's tan' just makes you lot arguing the case look stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FeliAiko View Post
    Trying to split hairs by going 'she's not brown, she's tan' just makes you lot arguing the case look stupid.
    Everyone knows that tan is a shade of brown, but "brown" the shade and "brown" the term for non-white skin tones are completely different. Especially when the argument is about inclusivity and "white-washing" lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleBeard View Post
    Everyone knows that tan is a shade of brown, but "brown" the shade and "brown" the term for non-white skin tones are completely different. Especially when the argument is about inclusivity and "white-washing" lol
    I get that the OP had 'skin colour' in the thread title, but it had nothing to do with race when you actually read the thread. What simply should've been 'yeah I don't get why it's changed either since she looks different in-game', suddenly went to claiming how androids can't have an ethnicity (yet proceeding to claim her as looking Caucasian anyway), to trying to split hairs over the difference between being tanned or otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FeliAiko View Post
    Yeah... no.

    Please point out the squad number of whoever it is that's "darker" than the above, because you need to re-calibrate your notion of what makes one 'dark'.
    Every single member of that team is darker than the example you provided.


    Quote Originally Posted by FeliAiko View Post
    Trying to split hairs by going 'she's not brown, she's tan' just makes you lot arguing the case look stupid.
    Excuse me who is stupid?


    Quote Originally Posted by FeliAiko View Post
    went to claiming how androids can't have an ethnicity (yet proceeding to claim her as looking Caucasian anyway), to trying to split hairs over the difference between being tanned or otherwise.
    Actually, what I said before the mods took my post down was that the art style depicts no racial features. I also said that just because you project your idea that she is poc doesn't mean she suddenly is bc I can easily project she's white.

    And bc people seem to make it an issue in this thread, hi hello, I'm a mixed person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anselmet View Post
    Every single member of that team is darker than the example you provided.
    Sure if you say so, mate.

    Excuse me who is stupid?
    Still you.

    "...become brown or browner"

    Now let's review what I said in that same post:

    Both circumstances, when applied to a character design/aesthetic, will result in one that appears as a shade of brown.

    Good job missing the point.

    Actually, what I said before the mods took my post down
    Don't think I saw your post, and I wasn't referring to you anyway.

    And bc people seem to make it an issue in this thread, hi hello, I'm a mixed person.
    Good for you. Still missed the point of all this, by thinking the topic was a race issue and not simply a question about a change in character aesthetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FeliAiko View Post
    Both circumstances, when applied to a character design/aesthetic, will result in one that appears as a shade of brown. Hence why you get the contrast between 2B and 2P as linked above. Trying to split hairs by going 'she's not brown, she's tan' just makes you lot arguing the case look stupid.
    No, it only makes anyone trying to argue it's "whitewashing" look stupid.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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