Alexander Ultimate

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I actually agree with Fynlar here. You shouldn't be using the statement to silence open opinion. It wasn't insensitive. it wasn't offensive. Fynlar didn't even attack the OP or anyone else in the thread. He simply gave an opposing view. There was no reason that an opposing opinion SHOULDN'T have been said here. even remotely. Please describe the reason why it shouldn't have been said.

Even if you don't understand that it was doesn't change the fact you had used this statement as a weapon. This is a great moment to learn this lesson without too much negative consequence.


Onto the actual topic so I have "something to add";
I am not eligible for ultimate. I also don't often watch streams. Let alone for repetitive and tedious activities- such as wiping repeatedly to the same fight for 24+ hours. The "hype" for seeing a new fight is very EASILY and definitively ruined by the sheer boredom of seeing the same things over and over and over and over and over and over and over.
the only thing that would hold my interest is banter between the team or their interaction with the stream viewers. and im sorry, speculating strats between eachother and focusing 150% to the game and ignoring the stream doesn't fulfill that.

to put succinctly; I have negative interest in Alexander Ultimate. but I'll hear about it. and thats enough for me.


EDIT/addition for Awha: I'm often pretty blunt in matters. wordplay is often a fickle art and is torn to shreds in this environment (and the world at large lately). so nothing I've said is a direct attack or even negative towards you. I simply wanted to avoid beating around the bush or using kid gloves toward you. Which is why I perhaps come off as harsh or cold in some of my posts. I often miss the mark and have my own set of weaknesses as well.
The few times I've sifted through the forums you're usually pretty composed and have a handle on social interactions. I just take a bit of issue with using a more general statement of basic tact and misusing it in a way it wasnt intended. But even though I disagree, It doesnt mean I wish to silence your stance either.

[Crushnight]

This whole thing reminded me of this parody

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap-_wHqcLec

[Awha]

I actually agree with Fynlar here. You shouldn't be using the statement to silence open opinion. It wasn't insensitive. it wasn't offensive. Fynlar didn't even attack the OP or anyone else in the thread. He simply gave an opposing view. There was no reason that an opposing opinion SHOULDN'T have been said here. even remotely. Please describe the reason why it shouldn't have been said.

Even if you don't understand that it was doesn't change the fact you had used this statement as a weapon. This is a great moment to learn this lesson without too much negative consequence.


Onto the actual topic so I have "something to add";
I am not eligible for ultimate. I also don't often watch streams. Let alone for repetitive and tedious activities- such as wiping repeatedly to the same fight for 24+ hours. The "hype" for seeing a new fight is very EASILY and definitively ruined by the sheer boredom of seeing the same things over and over and over and over and over and over and over.
the only thing that would hold my interest is banter between the team or their interaction with the stream viewers. and im sorry, speculating strats between eachother and focusing 150% to the game and ignoring the stream doesn't fulfill that.

to put succinctly; I have negative interest in Alexander Ultimate. but I'll hear about it. and thats enough for me.


EDIT/addition for Awha: I'm often pretty blunt in matters. wordplay is often a fickle art and is torn to shreds in this environment (and the world at large lately). so nothing I've said is a direct attack or even negative towards you. I simply wanted to avoid beating around the bush or using kid gloves toward you. Which is why I perhaps come off as harsh or cold in some of my posts. I often miss the mark and have my own set of weaknesses as well.
The few times I've sifted through the forums you're usually pretty composed and have a handle on social interactions. I just take a bit of issue with using a more general statement of basic tact and misusing it in a way it wasnt intended. But even though I disagree, It doesnt mean I wish to silence your stance either.

Fully agree with you, also no worries fairly hard to get under my skin or upset me since I often beat myself even harsher when it comes to mistakes and misunderstandings.

[SaberMaxwell]

This whole thing reminded me of this parody

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap-_wHqcLec

Lmao

That song will be sung loud over the hills. Reminds me of Titan's lyrics too.

"Bow down overdweller,
Your Lord commands
There'll be no progression for the sons of man!"

[JohnSpawnVFX]

There's a huge difference between "I don't like Ultimate because XYZ", and "I don't care.". One actually foments discussion, the other is just noise and calling for attention.

It's definitely OK to silence such posts because they don't add anything to the discussion, just to the poster's ego.

[CrimsonThunder]

Based OF being hostile to Ultimate because it's content they'll never be good enough to do.

[Fynlar]

There's a huge difference between "I don't like Ultimate because XYZ", and "I don't care.". One actually foments discussion, the other is just noise and calling for attention.

A good contribution to the discussion is not "I didn't care and I still don't", but rather more like "I don't personally care for ultimate. I find that it's too much of a time investment for me to actually get into it. I would like it better if there were a 'normal' and 'ultimate' versions of the fight, so that more people would be able to experience it."

You didn't get called out because your opinion was disagreed with. You got called out because you were being a twit.

I don't see the people who like ultimate having to provide Reasons for why they feel that way, so why should anyone else?

Denouncing opinions simply because they disagree with yours sounds more like the actual "twit" behavior if you ask me.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Denouncing opinions because they disagree with yours =/= denouncing opinions that boil down to "look at me, I exist" instead of adding actual discussion.

[Fynlar]

Again, please tell me where "discussion" was the goal of this thread. Most of the people responding are just like "yay, want!" without actually stating why they want it or inviting any discussion of their opinions. Even the OP doesn't say why they're looking forward to ultimate; they just said they are. Why isn't he getting blasted for making what basically also boils down to a "look at me, I exist" post?

Since you're not treating both sides equally (I'm sure that if I went with the crowd and said "yay, want!" nobody would be taking issue with it or asking me to defend my stance), all I can assume is that, yes, you're denouncing opinions simply because they don't fall in line with yours. So again, who's really being the twits here?

[JohnSpawnVFX]

I'd say it's the one twisting other people's arguments, and using the "If they can, why can't I too?" defense.

You could have already provided your reasons to boost discussion, but I guess shirking blame and deflecting is more important.