5.1x PvP preliminary feedback

[Zanmato]

Removal of 24-man is an unnecessary kick in the ****in* face to people who play at odd times. 24-man in general takes about 30 to 90 minutes for me to pop when I play, and I don't want to think about how it will be when I need to wait for 72 to fill up, but I will anyway.
If 24-man takes 30-90, I could easily see 72-man taking around 2-3 hours, maybe more. That is outright disrespectful to players. Do you not think of how precious time is?! For those who only can play at odd times, it is a bat-**** st***d and, again, DISRESPECTFUL change and it should immediately be stopped. Let 24-man stay for ***** sake! Don't punish players who simply cannot play at peak hours. Give us a ******* chance!

[Rhais]

There being so many mechanics in rival wings is the reason 4 isn't as bad I think. You don't really need 8 people coordinating in a party to handle most of them. FL maps have 1 simple objective and the rest is pvp, the pvp side of things is why people want full parties.

[SendoTakeshi]

I'm really sad about these changes. As one who participates in large groups for frontlines, it's just spending the night with friends enjoying the game modes we love. Most premades aren't super hardcore or tryhards, they just enjoy pvp in this game and like to party with others who want to actually pvp. These changes cater to those who are only in it for wolfmarks/tomestones and could care less about winning/losing or even trying.

Why are we being restricted in a social game? SE please realize you're only hurting those that actually care about these game modes, rather than helping. I suspect all of this feedback won't be taken to heart, and you'll just keep adding more wolfmark rewards so 72s keep popping and tell us the community is healthy/active, when in fact people are only there for rewards. I also know many of my pvp friends are going to all switch to one GC and queue at the same time so we get on the same team, so really all you're doing is creating more GC imbalances.

I don't even want to talk about the deletion of 24mans. That change alone will probably kill frontlines unless you add wolfmark rewards every patch cycle (we know you won't, too)

[Atreus]

Imagine limiting the ability to play with your friends in a Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game.

[Akimitsu]

SE f***g up PvP? That's unheard of.

[Noitems]

You know it's really stupid knowing the majority of people complaining about the 8-man premades are the ones who only do PVP for the wolf marks, GARO, and currently moogle tomes. The ones who after they get what they want bounce and never return leaving a big mess now for those who want to play with all their friends to keep the content alive.

I totally welcome the 8-man premades. It's a sense of danger and allows for proper strategy especially in Frontlines where you're dealing with a 1v1v1. Big reason I'm happy for Onsal is that premades are gonna be running around all over so you never know how the match will go. People will learn the land, new strats will form, and overall it'll be fun taking on new content with everyone.

I am just upset over the 24 mans and 8 man premades being removed. From what I'm told this is really due to the Japanese playerbase mainly going in with the full 72, but I don't see why they would take it out since it's just forcing people to play only at primetime. Which for some mainly goes into raid time, add on the shelf life of content before it's pushed to the side and it's just asking for trouble.

I think it's gonna be easier to get into FL due to the roulette, but I wouldn't be shocked to see Q's go into late 20 minutes for time to fill up.

[hynaku]

For me frontlines is dead to me after 5.1 not running them again. I only ran them to cap my tomes now I will just do hunts to cap them. SE really needs to quit breaking content more than already is. Be nice for once if SE would fix something and not make it worse.

[Moonlite]

Were the 4man changes for the roulette since 4 mans can que for it. Is it possible other modes are going to be added into the roulette?

[Saintly]

4 Man limit alone makes this patch awesome.
Cant wait to see the QQ now that people will not be able to stomp PuG's with their premade as easily.

Forced 72 man sucks tho, it was worth try-harding as solo on 24 man since one could greatly affect the outcome.

Now if only they added solo-only ranked modes.

[PatOnTheHead]

Class changes look good.
Nerf's where needed on some classes.
Signs of new abilities that's good.

Frontlines changes...who cares.
Feast updates....???

Real Topic: How will the class changes affect ranked solo q feast. Let's talk about it.