Ongoing harassment in PvP FL

[Chiami]

Dear SE,

you stated a while ago that you want to move stronger against harassment in-game, and thus updated your ToS to specify harassment and griefing, which I applaude given the rise of such behavior over the last year or so.

There is an ongoing issue though in Frontline, reported to me by others before (I could hardly believe that kind of obscenity to happen) and now I became a target of it myself: Certain people get a kick out of making obscene emotes over fallen bodies. Very obscene and insulting things.

If that is not harassment of the highest order then I don't know what.

And as a former victim of rape honestly what I just witnessed someone doing there when I fell to the ground...

... I needed to log out of the game and recover for a while. I am still not fully recovered, and don't think I can play PvP, or the game in general for a while.

Give us a method to note down the name of people who do that and report them, and then BAN THEM.

Because right now you are allowing the worst kind of people, people who would probably commit all kinds of other atrocities, to get a kick out of behavior in PvP that if done on a normal sport field would send them not just off the field and banned for a long time, but in some countries to jail. And if someone in the military would do that to a fallen enemy or prisoner they would be kicked out and stand trial.

This is unacceptable, and by not allowing us to see who is doing this kind of incredibly toxic and hurtful behavior to then report it you are essentially becoming complicit by covering their identities and despicable acts.

ETA: As someone informed me here examining the harassing player reveals the name, but I think it would be good to give us a slightly better method to identify them -- including a bit after the act, in case someone is simply too shocked by what they experience (I know I was not in a state to right-click and examine while it happened).

And I think disabling emotes to prevent the worst types of such acts from happening would be also something to consider -- that, or at least to make it easy to identify perpetrators (even later on) for report and SE then to come down on anyone doing that REALLY hard. This goes way beyond simple name calling as it sometimes happens in DF and other unpleasant behavior. Things like these can (re-)traumatize people easily -- I know if this would have happened to me some time ago I would have been a candidate for some new therapy sessions to deal with the fallout.

Sexual harassment and symbolic sexual violence, including online, should never be allowed or made that easy to get away with.

[Esmoire]

If I am not mistaken, the kill message for when something kills something else is still an available log message that you might have to toggle on since I don't remember if it's there by default. While you can't see the name of characters in the battlefield, I thought the chatlog message still showed their identity?

[Nalien]

Give us a method to note down the name of people who do that and report them, and then BAN THEM.

You're asking for something that already exists. Click on the player and examine them. Bam, you have their name and can report them.

Probably better asking for them to disable emotes entirely though, knowing SE they'll do it.

[Moonlite]

Sorry this upset you. Also emoting players will give you the name. I strongly dislike teabaggers and enjoy killing them even when losing. Also they are idiots, they aren't helping their team while gloating. But did you really not know about tea bagging? I want to say at least as early as Halo if not earlier.

[Gula]

I solo-ed a WAR as MCH today. Then ran over his corpse repeatedly.

It was a fun time. For me, not him.

[Chiami]

I solo-ed a WAR as MCH today. Then ran over his corpse repeatedly.

It was a fun time. For me, not him.

And for that kind of harassment you should be banned from the game imo, even if not the same thing as what I went through today. It's the kind of behavior that would get you kicked off any competitive game IRL (and worse, potentially), but you get away with it thanks to anonymity of the internet.

[Chiami]

You're asking for something that already exists. Click on the player and examine them. Bam, you have their name and can report them.

Probably better asking for them to disable emotes entirely though, knowing SE they'll do it.

I hope I never have to go through the same experience again (if I will actually do PvP again, I prefer not to have old traumas to be brought up again), but that is good to know -- not exactly something to think of, examining opponent players when gear is irrelevant.

I am 100% on board with disabling emotes to prevent toxic players like these to perform such despicable acts. If SE really wants to stand up to their claims of creating a safe environment for people to enjoy the game it's a necessity I fear.

[Commander_Justitia]

You can rightclick and examine a player to get his name in frontline. I wouldn't see it as harassment though...
And I don't wanna see emotes, jump and chat bans in frontline after consumable were banned already. People wouldn't have to teabag when we could use our 999stacks of fireworks. See what you did SE?

[Chiami]

Sorry this upset you. Also emoting players will give you the name. I strongly dislike teabaggers and enjoy killing them even when losing. Also they are idiots, they aren't helping their team while gloating. But did you really not know about tea bagging? I want to say at least as early as Halo if not earlier.

FFXIV is my first MMO, and I only heard about this disgusting behavior from others recently. I question by now whether to actually play and support with my sub money a game which still allows and enables such acts (as according to your post it is a known issue which has been around for a long time) -- acts which IRL would be criminal (at least in some countries, like mine), and clearly aim at traumatizing and harming others, while the game devs ignore the issue.

[Chiami]

You can rightclick and examine a player to get his name in frontline. I wouldn't see it as harassment though...
And I don't wanna see emotes, jump and chat bans in frontline after consumable were banned already. People wouldn't have to teabag when we could use our 999stacks of fireworks. See what you did SE?

"Wouldn't have to teabag"?!?!?! What kind of people feel they "HAVE" to commit such acts to demean, harm and traumatize other people, while hiding behind the anonymity of the internet?!

I am utterly disgusted, and hope not just the forum moderators ban you and anyone else here condoning such harassing and harmful behavior, but that anyone admitting to such behavior has their accounts tracked in-game as it's all but admit to doing such acts of severe harassment.

I got to take medication tonight after the incident, stuff I hadn't to touch for quite a while after therapy helping me to recover. "Wouldn't have to" ... what kind of people populate FFXIV by now?!