So, the Firmament...

[Endeleon]

Guys... you can't seriously believe that this is a housing ward? It looks exactly like the Doman Reconstruction did before you fix everything.

[Jojoya]

Guys... you can't seriously believe that this is a housing ward? It looks exactly like the Doman Reconstruction did before you fix everything.

No, it doesn't. Doman reconstruction started with a large flat piece of ground that was sprinkled with wooden frames in irregular shapes that bore no resemblance to a ward layout.

This is dotted with squares within squares sitting in tiers, much like the current housing districts are. Center bottom is one laid out just like a Medium house plot; other side of it and up on the higher levels you can see smaller ones with the square offset against a corner - much like small house plots.

Progress is not going to be individual like Doman Enclave nor will it be worldwide like it was with Mor Dhona and Idyllshire. It's going to be at the world level, which implies it's intended to be used by players from the same world together outside of other content being released in the game.

All of that heavily leans toward it being a housing district, especially with the heavy hint given us at the NA FanFest that players would be able to live in Ishgard once the Reconstruction is completed.

Time will tell.

[Endeleon]

No, it doesn't. Doman reconstruction started with a large flat piece of ground that was sprinkled with wooden frames in irregular shapes that bore no resemblance to a ward layout.

This is dotted with squares within squares sitting in tiers, much like the current housing districts are. Center bottom is one laid out just like a Medium house plot; other side of it and up on the higher levels you can see smaller ones with the square offset against a corner - much like small house plots.

Progress is not going to be individual like Doman Enclave nor will it be worldwide like it was with Mor Dhona and Idyllshire. It's going to be at the world level, which implies it's intended to be used by players from the same world together outside of other content being released in the game.

All of that heavily leans toward it being a housing district, especially with the heavy hint given us at the NA FanFest that players would be able to live in Ishgard once the Reconstruction is completed.

Time will tell.

I'll give you a tip. If you don't know what you are talking about is fact, stop talking about it as fact. You and people like you are drumming up the same kind of fervor that happened with Male Viera. Just stop. If or when they finally release Ishgard housing, they will shove it down our throats just like they did Shirogane.

Also, I'd looove to see your source for this "Heavy Hint" which was most likely a PR brush off.

[Dustytome]

I'll give you a tip. If you don't know what you are talking about is fact, stop talking about it as fact. You and people like you are drumming up the same kind of fervor that happened with Male Viera. Just stop. If or when they finally release Ishgard housing, they will shove it down our throats just like they did Shirogane.

But it absolutely looks like an obliterated housing district. How do you not see the ruined plots scattered all over? If it turns out to be player housing, I doubt it will be available when the worlds complete whatever they added at patch 5.11 since they still have the gatherer & combat class turn-ins to add, just a much less rubly preview of what is to be.

[Spirlia]

I'll give you a tip. If you don't know what you are talking about is fact, stop talking about it as fact. You and people like you are drumming up the same kind of fervor that happened with Male Viera. Just stop. If or when they finally release Ishgard housing, they will shove it down our throats just like they did Shirogane.

Also, I'd looove to see your source for this "Heavy Hint" which was most likely a PR brush off.

They said something to the extent of, "If anything happens with Ishgardian housing, it will be after it's built.". This was at Fanfest 2018. When asked about Ishgardian housing, Koji Fox said, "Once it's repaired, maybe you'll get somethiiiiing?"

Those are some heavy hints right there. People have been talking about it ever since, and this just lines up too perfectly. Not only that, but the area genuinely does look like a housing ward, with the exact shapes of plots.

Now, we won't know until very late into Shadowbringers I imagine, but it's hard to NOT come to the conclusion.

[Sotatsu]

Also, I'd looove to see your source for this "Heavy Hint" which was most likely a PR brush off.

https://gamerescape.com/2019/06/16/e...naoki-yoshida/

Quote:

Gamer Escape: We know that Ishgard Reconstruction is going to be considered crafting and gathering endgame content. Can you elaborate more on what this means? Will it be only level 80?

Naoki Yoshida: First and foremost, how this will be flagged as far as completion will not be by individual player, it will be flagged based on the entire world. The basic concept is going to be that all of the players within a particular world are going to rebuild Ishgard. Of course you can contribute more if you have a higher level crafter or gatherer, so in that sense you would be able to contribute more. There is also an element, however, where if your character does not have the crafter or gatherer jobs sufficiently leveled, you can purchase something like a lottery ticket that will allow you to participate in the reconstruction. Also, as more of Ishgard is reconstructed, there will be festivals that will be held, kind of like a seasonal event, and players can participate in those events to obtain additional rewards.

Finally, there will also be a ranking system where, if you are one of the top crafters or gatherers, you will have a title that can be awarded to you or a tool that you can obtain, sort of reminiscent of the ultimate battle weapons. So that will be an element for the top crafters and gatherers to attempt to achieve as well.

Gamer Escape: Is Ishgard reconstruction available at 5.0?

Naoki Yoshida: That will be implemented at 5.1.

Gamer Escape: Is Ishgard housing related to this system?

Naoki Yoshida: It’s up to the players I think…

[Endeleon]

https://gamerescape.com/2019/06/16/e...naoki-yoshida/

Quote:

Gamer Escape: We know that Ishgard Reconstruction is going to be considered crafting and gathering endgame content. Can you elaborate more on what this means? Will it be only level 80?

Naoki Yoshida: First and foremost, how this will be flagged as far as completion will not be by individual player, it will be flagged based on the entire world. The basic concept is going to be that all of the players within a particular world are going to rebuild Ishgard. Of course you can contribute more if you have a higher level crafter or gatherer, so in that sense you would be able to contribute more. There is also an element, however, where if your character does not have the crafter or gatherer jobs sufficiently leveled, you can purchase something like a lottery ticket that will allow you to participate in the reconstruction. Also, as more of Ishgard is reconstructed, there will be festivals that will be held, kind of like a seasonal event, and players can participate in those events to obtain additional rewards.

Finally, there will also be a ranking system where, if you are one of the top crafters or gatherers, you will have a title that can be awarded to you or a tool that you can obtain, sort of reminiscent of the ultimate battle weapons. So that will be an element for the top crafters and gatherers to attempt to achieve as well.

Gamer Escape: Is Ishgard reconstruction available at 5.0?

Naoki Yoshida: That will be implemented at 5.1.

Gamer Escape: Is Ishgard housing related to this system?

Naoki Yoshida: It’s up to the players I think…

Sounds like a humongous PR brush off to me.

[Jojoya]

Sounds like a humongous PR brush off to me.

Think what you want, just as the rest of us will think what we want. We'l know who was right once the Reconstruction is completed.

I'm confused you're even playing this game when you view its development team as a bunch of con men.

[Ishgardian]

I'm confused you're even playing this game when you view its development team as a bunch of con men.

Being good at Public Relations doesn't make you a "con man", Jojoya.

Public Relations speaking is all about artfully avoiding confirming or denying a fact your audience might be upset about it - and no one wants to have to deal with upset audience/clients which in turn may affect one's "product" sales.

I think the issue here is that taking "leading but ambiguous" responses from the dev team as "confirmation" is exactly what happened with male Viera. They gave vague answers to questions that players thought must mean it was coming and they were just being deliberately fake-secretive about it... and look how that turned out.

Yes it looks like it could be a housing ward.

Yes they've given answers that imply it may be coming.

But don't assume it IS coming until they outright say it is, or you still may be setting yourself up for disappointment.

Well said, Iscah!

The confirmed fact so far is that Firmament is an end-game content for crafters and gatherers. In a Newsweek article it reads,

Restoration of the Holy See of Ishgard

This endgame story content for Disciples of the Land and Hand will continue throughout the game's 5.x updates. "Of course, this won't just be doing tasks, there'll be a storyline attached to it. So perhaps you'll get to see some of those characters you loved from Ishgard," Yoshida teased.

Link here: https://www.newsweek.com/final-fanta...eynote-1315624

Perhaps we get the first housing settlement in Ishgard *after* the reconstruction has finished, which will probably come out with the release of the next expansion and it will definitely be used as a selling point.

The thought that gatherers and crafters would help in the building of a new housing district for the players sounds very weird to me.

Just my two cents.