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  1. #21
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    Oichi's Avatar
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    Okimi Shikinami
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 100
    From Miuna's live translation on discord Reddit FFXIV at the moment of that image:

    "A lot of greyed out skills..."
    "there were too many skills with similar effects, we merged a lot or remade them"
    "Byregot's Blessing successrate got bumped to 100% for example"
    "We believe there are a lot of players that have leveld and geared their crafters/gatherers, but have no idea on what they are doing "Someone please give me a macro" and that is okay of course, but we simplified it so more people might be able to enjoy and understand crafting/gathering better"
    "5.1 will have the first adjustments, there will be more in 5.2"
    "We are working on high difficulty crafting recipes as well"
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    Last edited by Oichi; 10-18-2019 at 11:36 PM.

  2. #22
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    Noitems's Avatar
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    Noitems Ever
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    Goblin
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    The fact these adjustments are happening at the same time Ishgard Restoration is pretty much them trying to make it easy as possible for people to contribute.
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  3. #23
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    Jkap_Goat's Avatar
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    Ul dah
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    Jkap Goat
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    Gilgamesh
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    Weaver Lv 80
    I wonder what going to happen to bacon's broth or tinkering calm
    (1)

  4. #24
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    Mitsuki Akiyumi
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    Malboro
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Doesn't surprise me that people would overreact before the content even came out.
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  5. 10-19-2019 12:18 AM

  6. #25
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Good. Crafting could use some streamlining.
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  7. #26
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    Callinon's Avatar
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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    In any given craft I probably used 10 abilities. But I had 40. So yeah... some streamlining isn't totally out of the question. Also I'd caution against making assumptions based on a screenshot of hotbars. We don't know what that means. Let's not pretend that we do.
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  8. #27
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    SerLuke's Avatar
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    Luke Lightbringer
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Good. Crafting could use some streamlining.
    Yeah there’s multiple touch abilities I don’t think I’ve ever used lol
    (3)

  9. #28
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    What happened when we logged in for 5.0?

    Our Byregot's Blessing was greyed out.

    Our Steady Hand II was greyed out.

    Our Name/Brand of [Earth/Fire/Ice/Lightning/Water/Wind] was greyed out.

    But we still have those things, with the Name/Brands being consolidated into "of the Elements".

    All that's being demonstrated in that screenshot is how much button bloat is getting removed. It's not showing us what our toolbars will look like once we've changed them to the new set of actions.
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  10. #29
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    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 86
    Looking at what is not greyed out give a few hints on things.

    Inner Quiet, Great Strides, Basic Synthesis, Basic Touch, Standard Touch, Careful Synthesis, Observe, Master's Mend, and Precise Touch are not greyed out. Careful Synthesis has a CP cost like Careful Synthesis 3.

    Looks like Basic/Standard/Advanced Synthesis have been merged into one action and Careful Synthesis I, II and III have been merged into one low CP action.
    (3)

  11. #30
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    Mars Phoenix
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    Phoenix
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Good. There is so much bloat in crafting skills that they don't even fit in 3 full hotbars.
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