Thread: SMN 5.1 Job adjustments

The flexibility of movement that should come from these changes is something to be really happy about. While there may be less buttons to press, I can see high-level play involving a sort of mini-game to never have to use a Ruin II cast by always having Ruin IV stacks available, especially during the tail-end of Bahamut's duration.

I do question with all of these instant casts the longterm future of Dreadwyrm Trance though. With this change, DWT feels wholly redundant as simply an instant cast buff since the assaults will be able to help weave Energy Drain and Fester and the goal is already to try to end DWT as fast as possible anyway. It seems like something too big for them to try and mess with during this expansion but I definitely see the Dreadwyrm and Bahamut portion of the rotation becoming the thing they can't ignore when answering job complaints moving forward.

I'm really hoping that they're improving the command prompt of the Egi assaults so they go off instantly as any other gcd would, because as mentioned by another poster earlier in the thread (sorry cant link as I'm on mobile) weaving enkindle and devotion as well as waiting for ruin 4 procs will be awkward and messy

Also I'm okay with these changes as long as egi response is addressed and egi assaults are at least on par with ruin 3 potencies

Originally Posted by SWB

Also I'm okay with these changes as long as egi response is addressed and egi assaults are at least on par with ruin 3 potencies

Do we know why the egi response is so slow compared to our demi summons which I never heard of having this problem?

I'm sure many will be pleased with these adjustments but personally I feel these changes were quite tone deaf towards what many of the summoner communities were looking for. It seems like all they heard was "Summoner is too busy, just lessen the amount of buttons they have to press by putting egi-assaults on the GCD." The only big improvements I see with these changes is a bit more increased mobility, which is certainly a net positive, and that this will certainly lessen the carpal tunnel complaints.

But it still doesn't address the multitude of complaints that so many of us has had. It doesn't address the consistent pet and summon ghosting issue that has plagued the job since it's inception. It doesn't address the rigidity of the rotation after Stormblood being so free flowing after making aetherflow a targeting attack. It doesn't fix how disjointed the kit feels where half the mechanics of the job do not have any affect on the other. It doesn't address how awkward Dreadwyrm Trance feels to use (heck if anything it makes it feel even more pointless then before). It doesn't address any of the problems with Devotion not activating or missing out on many party members. It doesn't address demi Summons still having to follow us around like lost puppy dogs when every summoner and their grandmother and their grandmothers cat have been asking them to make them stationary since they were added in 4.0.

Now I'm ranting and I try to make my feedback far more constructive. Basically all this is, is a band-aid. It makes a frantic mess of a job a playable mess of a job. It feels like what they did for MCH last expansion, where they make at least the job playable and worth the work you put in, and a minority of players may still enjoy it, but in the end the entire job needs a top down rework. I hope that means they put the same thoroughness and care into reworking SMN as they did MCH.

Originally Posted by Rika007

I'm sure many will be pleased with these adjustments but personally I feel these changes were quite tone deaf towards what many of the summoner communities were looking for. It seems like all they heard was "Summoner is too busy, just lessen the amount of buttons they have to press by putting egi-assaults on the GCD."

"Slower is better. Let's move all abilities onto the GCD!" - No one.
*A sudden moment of auditory clarity* - Devs

*Egi Ruin and Dancerja follow accordingly.*