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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    No. And additional funding isn't the issue.

    Time is.
    and patience. :P
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

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    People like you are the reason the mog station has gotten so out of hand these last few years.
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    All jokes I would gladly pay 15 to 50 bucks for a road to 70 buff that I can use on an existing character. Road to 70 would be awesome to level crafters.

    Yes leveling is easy but can be tedious and great thing about cash shops they can be used to offer pay for convenience options for those willing to pay.

    It is an extra option, for those willing to pay. I get it goes against the original intent to a degree, but with cross server MB, linkshells, grouping server choice does not really matter outside of a select few things, and if those things are still of a concern to someone then they will seek a lower pop / new server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    All jokes I would gladly pay 15 to 50 bucks for a road to 70 buff that I can use on an existing character. Road to 70 would be awesome to level crafters.

    Yes leveling is easy but can be tedious and great thing about cash shops they can be used to offer pay for convenience options for those willing to pay.

    It is an extra option, for those willing to pay. I get it goes against the original intent to a degree, but with cross server MB, linkshells, grouping server choice does not really matter outside of a select few things, and if those things are still of a concern to someone then they will seek a lower pop / new server.
    Actually it's not. What it does in reality is encourage developers to create excessive grinds in their game so that people are incentivized to take the cash option instead of putting up with the grind. We see it all the time now in full retail products.

    FFXIV is a full retail product with a subscription fee. We don't need a free-to-play economy on top of that. Stop asking to pay extra for things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    Actually it's not. What it does in reality is encourage developers to create excessive grinds in their game so that people are incentivized to take the cash option instead of putting up with the grind. We see it all the time now in full retail products.

    FFXIV is a full retail product with a subscription fee. We don't need a free-to-play economy on top of that. Stop asking to pay extra for things.
    Here is the thing the cash shop is here and it is here to stay. Sure people will want to fight it, but they cannot stop it. As it stands the cash shop as cosmetic and convenience options. Grinds will always be a thing in gaming especially MMO's and tbh providing an extra convenience on the cash shop would be awesome. Truth be told I rather they just add DoH and DoL jump potions but I personally know that is a far fetched dream so road to 70 buff is best thing.

    You are free to have your pov but even if grinds are made longer due to convenience options point remains they are still pay for convenience options. Also not an sale an aspect of need, simply a desire.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Here is the thing the cash shop is here and it is here to stay. Sure people will want to fight it, but they cannot stop it. As it stands the cash shop as cosmetic and convenience options. Grinds will always be a thing in gaming especially MMO's and tbh providing an extra convenience on the cash shop would be awesome. Truth be told I rather they just add DoH and DoL jump potions but I personally know that is a far fetched dream so road to 70 buff is best thing.

    You are free to have your pov but even if grinds are made longer due to convenience options point remains they are still pay for convenience options. Also not an sale an aspect of need, simply a desire.
    Just buy the jump potions then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Just buy the jump potions then.
    If they had jump potions for DoH and DoL I would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Here is the thing the cash shop is here and it is here to stay. Sure people will want to fight it, but they cannot stop it. As it stands the cash shop as cosmetic and convenience options. Grinds will always be a thing in gaming especially MMO's and tbh providing an extra convenience on the cash shop would be awesome. Truth be told I rather they just add DoH and DoL jump potions but I personally know that is a far fetched dream so road to 70 buff is best thing.

    You are free to have your pov but even if grinds are made longer due to convenience options point remains they are still pay for convenience options. Also not an sale an aspect of need, simply a desire.
    You can't stop the cash shop but where the playerbase spends its money as a collective decides what kind of cash shop it's going to be. Stable revenue being poured into leveling potions? That's a green light to further experiment in that particular section. Experienced mmo players have seen the inevitable in all these cash shops: they start out reasonable then later become out of hand.

    At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself how much convenience do you want that you're prepared to suffer later repercussions that a cash shop may have on the game? Yes, yes, slippery slope fallacy and all that but one that has had real precedents in any mmo that has a cash shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    You can't stop the cash shop but where the playerbase spends its money as a collective decides what kind of cash shop it's going to be. Stable revenue being poured into leveling potions? That's a green light to further experiment in that particular section. Experienced mmo players have seen the inevitable in all these cash shops: they start out reasonable then later become out of hand.

    At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself how much convenience do you want that you're prepared to suffer later repercussions that a cash shop may have on the game? Yes, yes, slippery slope fallacy and all that but one that has had real precedents in any mmo that has a cash shop.
    Probably a rhetorical question but for me personally as much as possible since the repercussions are only a possibility. Sure, data might favor it from happening, but we cannot be a 100% certain that it will be the case for FFXIV. Personally never been a fan of not doing something due to the possible repercussions or failure. Sure I might kick myself later down the road it goes south, but I probably would also kick myself later for not trying since I would not know what the outcome would be. Though I am an odd ball.
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    I created a character in May on Adamantoise and got the buff. In 3 months I got all my crafters/gatherer's to 80 as well as 3 combat classes just doing MSQ, class quests, and leves. Probably could have done more considering how much of the MSQ content I did while overleveled. God I miss that sweet, sweet XP so much I've had withdrawal for the last 2 months.

    I'd buy a potion for sure, but I doubt we'd see it.
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    Last edited by captain_crunch; 10-19-2019 at 12:17 PM.

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