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  1. #11
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    SerLuke's Avatar
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    Luke Lightbringer
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    Jenova
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    It was so bad that even new characters would received gil seller tells when you 1st start the game during the opening scene at that.
    I remember getting tells when I logged on and was still loading in =(
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  2. #12
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    One thing I do miss about Balmung being locked is that it starved out all the gil spammers and made tells like that legitimately rare... :<
    Someone on another thread mentioned that a lot of gil spammers are likely bots programmed to auto delete themselves once they've spammed enough, perhaps putting a restriction on making new characters after character deletion would help? Like a day or two or waiting before they can fill the now empty slot again? It's not like it would affect most of the player base given how most of us don't even have alts let alone any intention to delete our main.
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  3. #13
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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Buying gil from an RMT seller should be an instant permanent ban, regardless of first offence or not, no second chances. Enix should also post notifications stating this, so new players don't feel tempted to try because they don't realize the consequences. With a clear warning, there would be no excuses.

    There is no reason to be lenient with players who fuel this.
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  4. #14
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    Ursa_Vonfiebryd's Avatar
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    Ursa Nightrain
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Arazehl View Post
    The RMT spammers use to send you tells. At least that's stopped.
    Right after they added the 'Report RMT Activity' option to the chatlog, gil spammers retaliated with scripts that would send out party invites instead. Which was really annoying if you were trying to trade or teleport or pretty much interact with anything.

    Personally I'd rather have the chat spam because at least I can switch that to a tab. Random party invites can't be avoided unless Busy status lets you ignore them, and I think that just keeps you from sending Tells.
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  5. #15
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    Musashidon's Avatar
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    Blackmage Vivi
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonfish View Post
    No, that scenario sounds fake as hell. The real shocking part is that it’s full grown adults with functioning brains that buy gil.
    afaik, it shouldn't be fake, the discord pm PF's for clears while maybe not all some are real money but that's all hearsay.

    i will say OR at least it's claimed and people do fight against it because of said reasons.

    (i also just want to say i have no proof on anything that's true only what i read in game from other players or here on the forums)
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  6. #16
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    Nabril's Avatar
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    Dorion Borstein
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    Halicarnassus
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo View Post
    I don't really know what Square can do to end the problem in its entirety. I will say that Ive personally noticed less sellers/bots overall, but the akdksfsh sdkfsdkf's will continue to rise up.
    They can take away the right to use special characters in chat for one. The bots have been using them for YEARS to get their messages across. Stop new characters from using ascii. Or take away the ability for everyone. Either works for me.
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  7. #17
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    Bacent's Avatar
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    Kweh
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo View Post
    Jesus christ, I'm sort of speechless if this is a real scenario that happens
    Well it is part of the playerbases fault in why gilbots are rampant. If people stopped buying gil, we wouldn't have this issue, but people are dumb and/or lazy and they think it's perfectly ok they bought gil. I've actually seen someone act like this in an old discord group I was in back before I jumped datacenters, including a few group calls he was in and gloated about how he bought gil because he 'had some extra money lying around and got what he wanted'. It's sad you can't report people that openly admit it outside the game.
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  8. #18
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    If they cracked down harder on gil trafficking by banning both the sellers and the buyers it would actually deter people.

    It would also axe those players who sell gil to the RMT companies at a markdown, too. I really think that's a more common practice then one might think judging from the sheer scale of some of the bot farming operations going on.
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  9. #19
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    Aramyth's Avatar
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    Character
    Ara Myth
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Unpopular opinion but I don't mind the Gil sellers because it reminds me there are still lots of people playing. In XI when the Gil sellers started disappearing it was because the population was thinning.
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  10. #20
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    SamSmoot's Avatar
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    Character
    Fugu Barr
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    The only thing SE could do to completely stop it is to make gil untradeable. Which obviously won't happen.
    One way might be to block a portion of the text in posts that have been reported, say 100 times. Ideally, with the aid of a human who can identify and set the system to simply disappear any text that contains the seller's URL for example, forcing them to disguise it, or even change their site's name. Eventually, with so many gill seller's key phrases blocked, they'd find it nearly impossible to get their message across.
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