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    Why do you all feel FFXIV is a sequel to FFXI?

    Reading the posts around here, all i see is why they removed that feature from FFXI? Why is this different then FFXI? They should make this and that just like FFXI?

    I played FFXI myself. Yup it is a great game and i have some good memories from it. But FFXIV is by no means FFXI-2. It is not a sequel and besides the races, it is not meant to resemble FFXI in any way.

    Square Enix made this game to be a completely different game then FFXI and it's competitors' games (WOW etc...)

    I know FFXI has some great features and so does WOW but please keep in mind that FFXI is still here and it will stay around for another few years. SE does not want to keep FFXI and then add a FFXI copy with updated graphics.

    So to all of you who keep wondering why some features from FFXI are not in XIV... well it is because they are 2 separate games and that do not have anything in common besides the Final Fantasy name.

    Please try to focus on how we can make this a better and more unique game, instead of falling into FFXI nostalgia and asking to make this a plai copy of FFXI.... we need new, better and original features.
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    So far the new, original features turned out to be not so much better. It's a new game with a new storyline, new gear, new formulas, new setup, and hopefully soon a new and better class system. Other than that... Come on. If its not broke, don't fix it. Targeting system? Mob claiming? Magic system? Is it REALLY necessary to make sure its not the same, and sacrifice quality in the process?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jericho View Post
    So far the new, original features turned out to be not so much better. It's a new game with a new storyline, new gear, new formulas, new setup, and hopefully soon a new and better class system. Other than that... Come on. If its not broke, don't fix it. Targeting system? Mob claiming? Magic system? Is it REALLY necessary to make sure its not the same, and sacrifice quality in the process?
    Summed it up pretty nicely for me

    Quote Originally Posted by Spuffin View Post
    Basically building FF14 off FF11's foundation and constructing/twisting as time goes on thus making it still a Different game than FF11 AND much more enjoyable and time worth dedicating to. IF they did this then they would both satisfy the 60% AND 40% thus turning it into 100%....
    Nailed the rest
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    Personally I'm not looking/ not wanting an ffxi-2. I liked ffxi but I didn't like what it slowly became. I want to beable to pick a style of choice and not get bullied over it. FFXIV has some nice features if used properly. And SE and the new dev team are trying to make them easier to understand so you guys can use them properly.

    I honest to god hope they do not add auto attack. It gets boring watching your character fight. And in all honesty no one chats in parties much anymore. Most english parties tell ppl to stfu to focus on the exp. Most talkative parties i seen where from japanese. It was not like that in the old days.

    I want a new mmo, not a WoW clone that i've seen 30+ times. And not an ffxi clone where min/maxers rule the game like the "popular" kids in high school. And you get bullied for being different.

    I just want a fun mmo to play that is new. Something I never played before. And cuz ppl hate change we will never get that : /

    Mostly i just want this on ps3 asap...... It suck not playing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post

    Mostly i just want this on ps3 asap...... It suck not playing.
    so...you haven't played it yet?

    Also, the "elitists" (which is the word I think you were looking for) are in every game. In PWI, I was constantly laughed at for switched from xbow to a sword on archer whenever an enemy got to close for my bolts to do any real dmg. In SUN, I run an assassin that is based around his dark magic abilities, rather than his stealth abilities which results in me being shunned. In FFXI, I ran a DD Cor and almost always refused to /whm in non-event parties which resulted in me being blisted by many people. In FFXI on DRK, I almost never subbed nin.

    My point is that in every game, there are those who will cut down others based on their play style. I, personally, will cut down people if their play style is completely stupid and makes no sense at all (Thf/Sch for example...and yes it happened). The thing with FFXIV is that any job can be really..any other job. You can put almost any ability from any class on another class. I can turn my CON into a ghetto tank or my GLA into a ghetto mage. This kind of avoids the whole "I'm better than you" thing, but at the same time, it causes the game to fail horribly because there is no real class separation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus View Post
    Personally I'm not looking/ not wanting an ffxi-2. I liked ffxi but I didn't like what it slowly became. I want to beable to pick a style of choice and not get bullied over it. FFXIV has some nice features if used properly. And SE and the new dev team are trying to make them easier to understand so you guys can use them properly.

    I honest to god hope they do not add auto attack. It gets boring watching your character fight. And in all honesty no one chats in parties much anymore. Most english parties tell ppl to stfu to focus on the exp. Most talkative parties i seen where from japanese. It was not like that in the old days.

    I want a new mmo, not a WoW clone that i've seen 30+ times. And not an ffxi clone where min/maxers rule the game like the "popular" kids in high school. And you get bullied for being different.

    I just want a fun mmo to play that is new. Something I never played before. And cuz ppl hate change we will never get that : /

    Mostly i just want this on ps3 asap...... It suck not playing.
    This explains a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zkieve View Post
    This explains a lot.
    It however doesn't explain the holier-than-thou attitude. Nor the english bashing.
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    look at all the character models and they way the maps and cities are layed out. It's pretty much a copy paste concept of FF11 but w/o the many great features/aspects that made FF11 so great. w/o them this game is utter poop and that is why many of FF11's great points need to be implimented to further improve this game.

    This is another FF MMO. They should not have deviated from what had made 11 so great. If they already put the effort into copy pasting FF11's Famous Three Cities, The Jeuno city that is not yet unlocked, and the EXACT SAME races but with different names, same names in magic spells but with very shitty and poor quality animations.

    It's just an unfinished game that needs work with the help of 11...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spuffin View Post
    look at all the character models and they way the maps and cities are layed out. It's pretty much a copy paste concept of FF11 but w/o the many great features/aspects that made FF11 so great. w/o them this game is utter poop and that is why many of FF11's great points need to be implimented to further improve this game.

    This is another FF MMO. They should not have deviated from what had made 11 so great. If they already put the effort into copy pasting FF11's Famous Three Cities, The Jeuno city that is not yet unlocked, and the EXACT SAME races but with different names, same names in magic spells but with very shitty and poor quality animations.

    It's just an unfinished game that needs work with the help of 11...
    Making this game a FFXI sequel or FFXI-2 will kill the current FFXI which SE does not want to do. Further more it will push away all the players that did not like FFXI or that were looking for a different experience. Yes FFXI had great features but so did WOW and WOW is a completely different game then FFXI. WOW didnt need to be an exact copy of FFXI to be sucessful... they got their own thing going on. This is what needs to be done with FFXIV. They messed up with their attempt at orginialty but it can be fixed with a better system.

    SE has been very lazy with the design of FFXIV.. they did use a lot of copy and paste it is true... they did also copy the races and the 3 cities do look like they looked at FFXI's cities for inspiration and that is a design fail on their part.... especially when their goal was to make a different game then FFXI. Now saying we need to continue the copying because part of the game is already doing that, is just not the way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onidemon View Post
    Making this game a FFXI sequel or FFXI-2 will kill the current FFXI which SE does not want to do. Further more it will push away all the players that did not like FFXI or that were looking for a different experience. Yes FFXI had great features but so did WOW and WOW is a completely different game then FFXI. WOW didnt need to be an exact copy of FFXI to be sucessful... they got their own thing going on. This is what needs to be done with FFXIV. They messed up with their attempt at orginialty but it can be fixed with a better system.

    SE has been very lazy with the design of FFXIV.. they did use a lot of copy and paste it is true... they did also copy the races and the 3 cities do look like they looked at FFXI's cities for inspiration and that is a design fail on their part.... especially when their goal was to make a different game then FFXI. Now saying we need to continue the copying because part of the game is already doing that, is just not the way to go.
    I never said FF11-2 I said to take many aspects from 11 and basically build on them in 14. If they implemented and constructed on them let alone twist them, then this game would have been a huge success.

    LOL even if they did make a FF11-2 this game would not be in the state it is in now AND there would be a larger player base...

    If they did make a FF11-2 like EVERYONE AND THEIR MOTHER was expecting then I would be playing an enjoybale game right now instead of browsing these lame threads on how to fix this excuse of a game while I lye in wait for the next FEW months possibly a year until this game becomes enjoyable.. As soon as TERA is here I'm not looking back at this game until they have finalized and structured this game.
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