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    Wawachume Popochume
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    Quote Originally Posted by kobe-sabi View Post
    Repose is a waste, cant sleep anything that matters and AOE's are common now.
    A waste of what, though? Repose doesn't seem to be using up any finite resource just by sitting on my action bar. I'm not sure it's fair to call it a waste if it's not actually wasting anything.

    I haven't managed to use repose in Shadowbringers, aside from the role quest, but I'm happy to keep it around just in case.

    Honestly, these threads kind of confuse me in general. If you want cleric stance back, why not just make a "bring back cleric stance" thread? Removing repose seems to have nothing to do with it. I'm pretty sure the reason we don't have cleric stance in Shadowbringers isn't because the developers really wanted to put it in but decided they only had room for six role actions and repose was just more important.

    Quote Originally Posted by kobe-sabi View Post
    AND PLEASE MAKE IT MATTER. 5% for 15sec with a 90sec recast wont cut it for SCH and AST, WHM would benefit from it though. Maybe Cleric Stance could have different affects for each healer and improve where they lack from other healers "WHM"
    I don't know that I like the idea of having different versions of a role action for different jobs. I'd rather just give them completely separate abilities with their own lore and whatnot.

    Besides, I think cleric stance only works for white mage.

    WHM is big on GCD abilities and personal DPS. So with every GCD you're either healing or attacking, but usually not both. Both versions of cleric stance worked by creating a "damage window" of sorts, either stance- or cooldown-based, and that kind of thing can work well with WHM since it already separates healing and DPS.

    Scholar, though, tends to heal and DPS at the same time, weaving oGCD heals with GCD damage spells. It also---at least before Shadowbringers---did a lot of its damage with DoTs, which again was concurrent with healing because the DoTs could just keep running while you healed.

    Basically, SCH has traditionally been more about management and planning, in contrast to WHM's focus on big bangs of healing and damage. Cleric stance, to me, would just push SCH more in the direction of WHM.

    Astrologian, meanwhile, just has less use for a personal damage boost since a lot of their DPS comes from buffing other people's damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wawachume View Post
    A waste of what, though? Repose doesn't seem to be using up any finite resource just by sitting on my action bar. I'm not sure it's fair to call it a waste if it's not actually wasting anything.

    I haven't managed to use repose in Shadowbringers, aside from the role quest, but I'm happy to keep it around just in case.

    Honestly, these threads kind of confuse me in general. If you want cleric stance back, why not just make a "bring back cleric stance" thread? Removing repose seems to have nothing to do with it. I'm pretty sure the reason we don't have cleric stance in Shadowbringers isn't because the developers really wanted to put it in but decided they only had room for six role actions and repose was just more important.
    they could of kept the other CC role action along with each healers original CC spells and abilities, but they choose to go down the easy road. SE is slowly removing status affects while keeping some, tying Repose to the healers Role Quest is cute, but when will you be able to use it. maybe sleep an enemy and run past, surley not a dungeon since all mobs have to die to advance and we AOE now, each healer had its own kit of stuns, silences, blinds, binds, heavys, slows. each healer was unique in what they did for CC, but SE went against it ,removing everything and replace with Repose


    Quote Originally Posted by Wawachume View Post
    I don't know that I like the idea of having different versions of a role action for different jobs. I'd rather just give them completely separate abilities with their own lore and whatnot.
    Naw i rather them make the stance unique for each healers, SE proved they dont want to make different role actions since healers and tanks have been gutted to fill other jobs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wawachume View Post
    Basically, SCH has traditionally been more about management and planning, in contrast to WHM's focus on big bangs of healing and damage. Cleric stance, to me, would just push SCH more in the direction of WHM.

    Astrologian, meanwhile, just has less use for a personal damage boost since a lot of their DPS comes from buffing other people's damage.
    That is the point to bring the other healers up to a respectable place in dealing damage,
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    Last edited by kobe-sabi; 10-17-2019 at 12:15 AM.