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  1. #21
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    FirstnameLastname's Avatar
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    Firstname' Lastname'
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    Twintania
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Removing gauge cost and adding that to another (possibly new?) skill for gauge management would probably be my favourite scenario as well. Not that it would happen, anyways.
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  2. #22
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    Revia Pedites
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Make Maim (I forgot the 2nd part of single target rotation weaponskill name) apply DOT.

    Or make Upheaval apply DOT, something like 250 potency with 40 potency for 15s.

    WAR lack DOT to make enemies bleed, even though technically axe is still a blade weapon.

    Onslaught-wise, retain the gauge cost but give a conal aoe effect of 20 potency to every other target other than the first (maintain 100 potency).

    Some greedy thing about future 6.0 will be giving a trait to lv90 that change FC to IC and the AoE skill to Chaotic Cyclone during IR. And based on other class lv90 performance, add nascent glint effect to IR to all other party members (broken it is, so only when all other lv90 are equally broken).

    Roleplay wise, make Inner Chaos proc a tumbling effect against normal mobs. (As in, Dohn Mheg First Boss Water Jet attack that flings you to the sky) Because it is funny and Inner Chaos looks like a crazied golf club swing.
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  3. #23
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    Esmoire's Avatar
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    Mei Coincounter
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    Ultros
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ReviaInfantry View Post
    Roleplay wise, make Inner Chaos proc a tumbling effect against normal mobs. (As in, Dohn Mheg First Boss Water Jet attack that flings you to the sky) Because it is funny and Inner Chaos looks like a crazied golf club swing.
    I would love if this game had ragdoll physics on fatal attacks, especially in PvP. Then we can start launching lalas from Carteneau all the way to Kugane.
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  4. #24
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    Reinfeld's Avatar
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    Typical Karen
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    Exodus
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    Pugilist Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by Esmoire View Post
    I would love if this game had ragdoll physics on fatal attacks, especially in PvP. Then we can start launching lalas from Carteneau all the way to Kugane.
    *Knock knock knock* Open up. This is LPS (Lala Protective Services). We have a few questions for you regarding your time in Carteneau. We have the Police here and a warrant.
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  5. #25
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    Dugu Qiubai
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    Midgardsormr
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    Marauder Lv 90
    I want this as well. Or just make Infuriate remove rage cost for the next 5 seconds like it does in PvP for inner chaos and chaotic cyclone. That way, a war could infuriate and onslaught if he wanted to, and there is no risk of raiders complaining about "1 minute pulls" cuz war wanted to infuriate for rage then wait for it to come off cd.

    But Top of my list for War changes is to remove that annoying a heck party target requirement on Nascent Flash. It. Is. So. Dumb. = (
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  6. #26
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    Storm-Driver's Avatar
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    Raine Hyskari
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    Lamia
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    As a Paladin main.... yeah, we have it too good. I play Warrior on the side and it pains me a lot to watch the Dark Knight zoop forward while I gotta pop sprint 10 seconds before we pull.
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  7. #27
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    Mei Coincounter
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    Ultros
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinfeld View Post
    *Knock knock knock* Open up. This is LPS (Lala Protective Services). We have a few questions for you regarding your time in Carteneau. We have the Police here and a warrant.
    Don't get on my case! Lalas just have more air mileage than a roegadyn or something.
    Quote Originally Posted by NyneSwordz View Post
    I want this as well. Or just make Infuriate remove rage cost for the next 5 seconds like it does in PvP for inner chaos and chaotic cyclone. That way, a war could infuriate and onslaught if he wanted to, and there is no risk of raiders complaining about "1 minute pulls" cuz war wanted to infuriate for rage then wait for it to come off cd.
    The thing is the flag that says you are in combat is also required to use Infuriate, which by the time that happens you have already reached the boss.

    Yes Nascent Flash controls like dookie in PvP and either needs to usable on the self or just changed. It doesn't really work as well in PvP from a design standpoint. It requires:

    1) A target within visual line-of-sight of the WAR and within 30 yalms
    2) Any of the people present to actually be in the WAR's party
    3) That the WAR has resources to spend at the time to get value out of it

    If you are in trouble there's just a lot of barriers in the way as opposed to, say, just being able to press a button and get some protection or sustain like the other tanks have.

    Edit - I just realized I misunderstood what you meant about the Infuriate thing. If they changed how it functions in PvE to not give gauge but instead just remove costs (+ be usable out of combat) then yeah that would give that same flexibility, though it would need some tweaking because in PvE we want to get Storm's Eye up before using our main damage CDs or resources. In general I wonder why the FFXIV dev team insists job gauges all start at 0 when zoning in since they are having to jump through hoops to solve it and appease like 5% of the player base while making it less convenient for everyone else.
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    Last edited by Esmoire; 10-31-2019 at 06:04 PM.

  8. #28
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    NyneSwordz's Avatar
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    Dugu Qiubai
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    Midgardsormr
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Esmoire View Post
    Don't get on my case! Lalas just have more air mileage than a roegadyn or something.
    The thing is the flag that says you are in combat is also required to use Infuriate, which by the time that happens you have already reached the boss.

    Yes Nascent Flash controls like dookie in PvP and either needs to usable on the self or just changed. It doesn't really work as well in PvP from a design standpoint. It requires:

    1) A target within visual line-of-sight of the WAR and within 30 yalms
    2) Any of the people present to actually be in the WAR's party
    3) That the WAR has resources to spend at the time to get value out of it

    If you are in trouble there's just a lot of barriers in the way as opposed to, say, just being able to press a button and get some protection or sustain like the other tanks have.

    Edit - I just realized I misunderstood what you meant about the Infuriate thing. If they changed how it functions in PvE to not give gauge but instead just remove costs (+ be usable out of combat) then yeah that would give that same flexibility, though it would need some tweaking because in PvE we want to get Storm's Eye up before using our main damage CDs or resources. In general I wonder why the FFXIV dev team insists job gauges all start at 0 when zoning in since they are having to jump through hoops to solve it and appease like 5% of the player base while making it less convenient for everyone else.
    They could just increase pot on onslaught to makenup for not having eye up. Or not. Its not a big deal. Eye buff on onslaught is a tiny dps gain anyway, they could balance around it. But id love the flexibility and fu. Of being able to onslaught when i want.
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  9. #29
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    I think the problem is that the payout is not as rewarding as it used to be. WAR has always been about building up for something big and its playstyle revolved around that. In 2.0 and 3.0 we had wrath stacks that needed to be maxed then paired properly with berserk for maximum damage and heals. There was also gauge management because it directly affected your crit rate. Onslaught is just the tip of the iceberg but its not that hard to gain and is meant as a utility skill. Also note that WAR benefits more heavily from Crit than other tanks and as the expansion goes on it will get stronger lending credence to WAR building up for something big. Changes I would like to see in 5.2:

    -Nascent Flash self-target
    -Storm's Eye duration up to 60 seconds (Storm's Eye still adds only 30 seconds)
    -A 10-20 potency buff to Fell cleave and Decimate
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  10. #30
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Esmoire View Post
    Please make Onslaught free to use outside of combat.

    As it is, it's not fair that we have to actually walk up to the boss after zoning into a duty. Are you out of your mind!? You must understand I came from playing WAR in 4.x where we sat in grandeur thrones of oppression and luxury and am not accustomed to hardship and not being the best at basically everything. Sure Onslaught had a cost back then but at the very least paladins, the secondary BiS for the warrior, also joined us for our march towards glory. Now PLD and this new nerdbreaker job get to zoop into battle and we're left in the dust.

    All the other tanks get to zoop into battle! Mom, it's not fair!
    ...I think virtually every melee would prefer you Sprint into combat, rather than using Onslaught to throw off their macrorotation, anyways?

    And... why, exactly do you need free potency per pull?
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