Lets end FFXIV with Neir (Neir spoiler)

[NessaWyvern]

Just as the shards are reflections of the source, so too is FFXIV a reflection of Final Fantasy as a whole. We even had a chocobo show up from Side-games.
I for one, love all the references to other games, gives a nice sense of nostalgia.

[Enla]

I agree with the poster that this game is heavy on other game's lore. It's all new to me though as I only played 7 and some of 6 and 8. I am in favor of new characters and monsters over nostalgic nods which I think should be rarer to keep them special.

Now if they were to announce ff17 is an MMO created by this current team I'd be delighted. Imagine what these devs could do with a clean slate and no "technical limits" from having to use a previous game's code as they do now.

There really aren't that many instances where you /need/ to have played the other games lore though in order to understand what's happening. They tie most of it into the lore of FF14 pretty well and most of the nods to past games are Easter eggs at best. Like Hien for example. One of the only ways you'd know he's a nod to Cyan from FF6 is when his 'theme' starts playing during cutscenes, and even then you wouldn't actually know it is an Easter Egg until you get the Orchestrion roll and it appropriately is titled 'Cyan's Theme'. The only other nod he has to the character that inspired him is his childhood name of 'Shun', which was what Cyan's kid was called in the Japanese version of FF6.

Even the Ivalice raids, the most overt nod to another game in this entire MMO, don't require you to have knowledge of the lore of Tactics. While I can definitely understand not enjoying these little nods if you haven't played past titles, I'd say the lore team has done a pretty fantastic job making these little homages fit with the newer content.

[Fredco191]

Why did you put "(Nier spoilers)" if the post is literally you asking the devs to delete everyone who completes the quest line?

[Ghald]

Why did you put "(Nier spoilers)" if the post is literally you asking the devs to delete everyone who completes the quest line?

At the conclusion of Nier game, one of the ending asked the player if they are willing to delete their character data, it was not a joke, you really are deleting your game save data, the only remnant remain was that you got a new start screen which you get to keep even if all your character data are gone.


On my first post I said "delete all our character data", I was refering to 1 player character data but I can see why that wording made it sounds like I'm asking for every players character data to be deleted, voluntarily or not which is not the case.

[MPNZ]

The shards and source being like a mirror that reflects or like a child that is impressionable to what they see from the worlds viewed through the rift is still a plausible theory that could be explain a lot

[hynaku]

Why wouldn't Nier fit in after all there is endless dimensions. Maybe a portal to the Nier universe opens up and we have to stop it before war carries over from it to our dimension.

[MikkoAkure]

Didn't Yoshi state from the very beginning that the game is going to be a theme park with different FF stuff (and now others) thrown into it? Besides, you're a little late to the party considering we already had the actual Noctis, Lightning, and Iroha show up from their own games and Iroha is now canonically stuck in our world after that event.

This game has been mixing with others from the very beginning and the Ivalice stuff was pretty light considering none of those characters came over in a portal. Our Rabanastre is not the same one in the Ivalice Alliance series and does not share the same history. Dalmasca was already mentioned all the way back in ARR with the conscript we bump into and we go inside the FF3 Crystal Tower, so this game was built upon taking parts of other games for content whether you like it or not.

[Wyssahtyn]

Dalmasca was already mentioned all the way back in ARR with the conscript we bump into

This is wrong. Drest's homeland was never mentioned by name in ARR and the most specific it got was in a postmoogle quest wherein it was mentioned that he was from a desert. He wasn't stated to be from Dalmasca until you do the completely asinine wine fetching quest to unlock Ridorana in Stormblood.

[MrThinker]

This is wrong. Drest's homeland was never mentioned by name in ARR and the most specific it got was in a postmoogle quest wherein it was mentioned that he was from a desert. He wasn't stated to be from Dalmasca until you do the completely asinine wine fetching quest to unlock Ridorana in Stormblood.

Instead Dalmasca was first mentioned in material regarding the rise of the Garlean Empire as one of the first nations to fall to the power of magitek, and existed in Southern Ilsabard, but this would later be retconned into Nhalmasque, so that the current Dalmasca could exist.

[dapperfaffer]

This game has a story?