"Aggro Battles"

[DRKoftheAzure]

Removing combos that were avoided at all cost, a bad design? you're funny lmao

You know, it would be funny, but tank stances that generate only aggro on all of the jobs/classes is bad design.


Aggro combos that can only be used while tank stance is active would have been nice to explore so long as the tank stance wasn't a DPS loss, just DPS neutral, but maybe in like 6.0 or much later... you know to experiment what kind of tank players there are, but that's just my thoughts and opinions....

[Sabora_Makingai]

So basically removing aggro combos was actually a bad idea on the devs part then? Not surprising, especially if they want all tanks to keep tank stance on...

The keep tank stance on thing was for dungeon runs. In 8 man savage/Ex content it can be trouble as you get higher skilled players with better gear. If both tanks are wearing the same gear and start the fight, the one who can hit the burst window first will take hate. If youre OT just shirk the MT a few GCDs into the fight or turn tank stance on after a few GCDs and youll be fine. PLDs generate a mojoity of their hate with their first 3 Atonements but GNB will hit their burst like 1-2 GCDs before that so if they start the fight in tank stance too, prepare to have hate stolen unless they shirk.

[Allooutrick]

I'm glad I've never experienced that. Though I tend to ask if they want to be the main tank at the start. The vast majority of the time they accept being MT. As such I've gotten good at being the OT as paladin and enjoy it as there's so much support to be given.

[NessaWyvern]

I've experienced a person who was MT in innocence Ex and I was off-tank. For some reason, halfway through I pulled aggro off him while he was in tank stance and I wasn't. I think his dps must've been pretty low, as his add during add phase died really slow, and innocence took ages to die. Tankswaps were awkward too, as when we had tank swap Inc, my shirk wouldn't give him enough aggro :/