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    [Feedback][GNB] Blasting Zone should have same CD than Gnashing Fang

    Hello.

    Blasting Zone's CD should be affected by Skill Speed just like Gnashing Fang does.

    Its not a big change, but it'd help making Blasting Zone fit into Gnashing Fang combo always at the same time.
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    NO! IT WOULD MAKE GNB WORSE!
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    I mean if you can't use your eyes to check an oGCD come off CD, then press it, there is very little doubt this change would make any difference.
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    No, the GCD difference on the Renzokuken combo is about 1.6 seconds with 1800ish SkS. All this does is account for occasional GCD float such that it helps the combo align with our other CD's a bit better. It's the same principle behind Sonic Break.

    Blasting Zone, being our strongest single-target attack at a whopping 800 oGCD potency, fits nicely at 30s because it doesn't have to account for GCD float, and this means it's easily up every time No Mercy is available.
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    Last edited by Quor; 10-13-2019 at 01:22 AM.

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    Blasting Zone should be a cone!

    Make it trend!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Blasting Zone should be a cone!

    Make it trend!
    Make Danger Zone a cone AoE and Blasting Zone is seperate line AoE which increases their DPS even more in both single and multi target. I want that just as much as better DRK gameplay...
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    Last edited by DRKoftheAzure; 10-13-2019 at 06:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    ... but it'd help making Blasting Zone fit into Gnashing Fang combo always at the same time.
    It already does.


    UNLESS youre NOT using a rotation.



    added note: making blasting zone a GCD instead of an oGCD means you would NOT use blasting during a gnashing fang. like sonic break, it would COMPETE with gnashing fang. meaning this change is the OPPOSITE of your stated desire.
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    Last edited by Fluffernuff; 10-13-2019 at 06:11 AM.

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    I dont know if ppl read before posting...

    Where did i say that Blasting zone should be a GCD?

    I just said that Blasting Zone being affected by Skill Speed would fit better into Gnashing Fang Combo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    Where did i say that Blasting zone should be a GCD?

    I just said that Blasting Zone being affected by Skill Speed would fit better into Gnashing Fang Combo.
    when you wanted an ABILITY to work like a GCD.


    the only reason that gnashing fang's cooldown is even affected by Skill Speed at all is because its a WEAPONSKILL; a GCD.
    the reason Blasting zone is NOT, is because its an ABILITY.


    applying basic logic, critical thinking, and common sense, we get that you either you want to;
    a) change all abilities to be affected by SkS. (because screw casters)
    b) change a singular exclusive ability in a specific and favored way that no other action at all has ever been given before and screw over an already delicate balance of classes. (this is more of what youre claiming to want, and the worst of the 3, imo)

    OR

    c) change blasting zone into a GCD to match gnashing.


    The really confusing thing about all this is that..... Blasting zone as it is.... is already used at the exact same 2 points in the rotation;
    Double weaved after sonic break. (which is used between gnashing fang and savage claw during nor mercy)
    Double weaved after continuation- the oGCD that you can only use during gnashing fang.

    both of these very specific timings appear to be perfectly lined up with the use of gnashing fang.


    If they are not lining up for you, you need at least 1300 SkS for a 2.41s GCD and to practice the rotation a bit more util you get the hang of it. If you do not know the rotation, it isnt exactly hidden, and worst case scenario, The Balance discord isnt private; join there and set yourself up with the GNB resources.
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    Last edited by Fluffernuff; 10-13-2019 at 03:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffernuff View Post
    b) change a singular exclusive ability in a specific and favored way that no other action at all has ever been given before and screw over an already delicate balance of classes. (this is more of what youre claiming to want, and the worst of the 3, imo)
    I'm sorry but there was a skill that worked like the OP is suggesting, it was bard's empyreal arrow before they made it an ability this expansion which imo sucks since now it drifts. But before it was classified as a weaponskill, which did benefit from sks, that didn't share a cd with anything and was used as an ogcd.
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