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    Quote Originally Posted by icy_ View Post
    the awkwardness begins to show when extra "change" items are added (e.g. cents). "I have $135.67" --> "I have one hundred and thirty-five dollars and sixty-seven cents."
    That is exactly how I would write out that amount - and I'm fairly sure it's how you're expected to write it out on a bank cheque, at least in Australia.

    Maybe this is a cultural thing. "One hundred thirty-five" sounds American to me.

    In any case, both "one hundred and thirty-five dollars" and "five thousand and fourteen years" are both phrases with a single "and" before they reach some kind of dividing element that brings the number to a clear end-point.



    Quote Originally Posted by icy_ View Post
    For the sake of argument, would you write 135.678 as
    • "one hundred and thirty-five and six hundred and seventy-eight thousandths" ?
    • No, you'd instead write "one hundred thirty-five and six hundred seventy-eight thousandths".
    A single and instead of three. Hopefully now you can see where I'm coming from
    Actually if I was reading out that number I'd say "one-thirty-five point six-seven-eight", but for formally writing it out in full.... I probably would include the "ands". It sounds wrong without them. It just needs pauses in speech, or punctuation in writing.

    "One hundred and thirty-five, and five-hundred-and-sixty-eight thousandths."

    The third decimal point is what makes unwieldy ("and sixty-eight hundredths" would be fine), and I don't think there is any context where you would have to fully write out a number like that.

    If I was going to shorten it, I'd drop the 'hundred' as well as the 'and'. "Five-sixty-eight thousandths".
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    I have no idea if it's appropriate to use "and" in that context in english but in my native language it is never used with numbers like that and it honestly feels really weird and unnecessary.
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    Guys/Gals this is a troll thread come on...
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    I think the "and" is fine in this case, personally. The inclusion of "and" after the words "hundred", "thousand," etc. is used very commonly in informal speech and often shortened to just a 'n in the same way "one" gets shortened to "a". E.g. Instead of saying "one thousand one nights" people say "a thousand 'n one nights." In formal settings, such as writing a cheque or a science paper or a news article, the "and" is not needed except for potential clarity and to indicate the decimal place. This is from my point of view as a western Canadian speaker of English which may vary from other's experiences since there is likely a lot of cultural variation to this even within a single country, and as with all English "rules," exceptions abound and are broken in large numbers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmymagic View Post
    Guys/Gals this is a troll thread come on...
    Meh. It was a joke thread, not a troll thread imo. Regardless, I find the topic of grammar interesting so I'm happy to chat about it whatever the intentions of the OP were.
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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 10-25-2019 at 02:54 AM.

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