“Console limitations” excuse will not hold up in 2020..

[CookiesNCreams]

In case you guys didn’t know, it was recently confirmed that the ps5 will come out during late 2020. Also, the leaked specs online suggest that it’s basically a well optimized PC with a ps logo slapped on it, lol.

So it got me thinking. Once this happens, the whole “console limitations” thing should blow over. At that point, there really shouldn’t be any excuse for anything the game is lacking in. (Within reason, anyway)

Though from looking at previous live letters and interviews it seems they will always come up with an excuse no matter what. I’ll rank them...

1. sErVeR lImITaTioNs
2. toO hArD
3. Ps4 lImITaTiONs (this excuse is mostly used by the community rather than the devs)
4. no

On a side note, anyone excited for the ps5 to come out next year? I assume ffvii remake becomes cross PS4/PS5.

[Canadane]

It will always be console limitations.

[Raltar]

It will still be limited by the people playing on PS4. Assuming they even make a PS5 version of the game.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Server limitations are for when people ask for things that the system the devs have in place transfers with your character every time you change instances/go into a dungeon. This isn't so much a "server limitation" but a write throughput limitation. The devs are simply using language that most people understand. I'm sure most of the playerbase would have their eyes gloss over if they started talking about iops, network transfer limitations, SAS transfer speed limitations, disk write limitation, etc. (this can also tie in to player network limitations, a la people dcing en mass at fates due to their own set-ups not being able to handle the sheer amount of data being transfered, I've never dc'd in those circumstances.)

Also, ps4 is stronger than a lot of players crappy college laptops they use to play the game at 15fps

[hobostew]

Nice of you to assume I'm not playing on a toaster

[CookiesNCreams]

It will still be limited by the people playing on PS4. Assuming they even make a PS5 version of the game.

I can only assume by 6.0 they’ll drop PS4 support since further improvements are highly requested. So it’ll only be PS5/PC.

Server limitations are for when people ask for things that the system the devs have in place transfers with your character every time you change instances/go into a dungeon. This isn't so much a "server limitation" but a write throughput limitation. The devs are simply using language that most people understand. I'm sure most of the playerbase would have their eyes gloss over if they started talking about iops, network transfer limitations, SAS transfer speed limitations, disk write limitation, etc. (this can also tie in to player network limitations, a la people dcing en mass at fates due to their own set-ups not being able to handle the sheer amount of data being transfered, I've never dc'd in those circumstances.)

Also, ps4 is stronger than a lot of players crappy college laptops they use to play the game at 15fps

Random question, but do you happen to be a reverse engineer? I really appreciate how articulate you are with the wording. But yeah, I understand that mostly everything you do in the game is essentially compressed into a packet and depending on the contents (or if you want to get technical, op code) of said packet, it’ll have different loads on the main servers. If Square Enix went into great detail about the technical side of it, I most certainly would not gloss over anything, lol. But that’s not the point of this thread, Valkyrie.

The point of this thread is players like you and me, getting thoughts like, “isn’t the same excuse said over and over and over again?” If that isn’t a problem to you for a game you are paying for, then I’m not sure what’ll convince you.

If a game’s infrastructure is built on an essentially outdated engine, and you can hardly perform what your paying customers ask of you, don’t you think you should probably, I dunno, do something about that at some point in time? I know they can’t magically fix what is hard coded in the game’s engine that prevents certain requests, but eventually gets old. If creating a new MMO is the solution, then by all means, do so. Though I don’t see a FF 16 MMO being announced until maybe 2024.

TLDR: eventually excuses get really old for a game you have people paying for. and if making a new mmo allows you to do that, you should do so at some point.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I can only assume by 6.0 they’ll drop PS4 support since further improvements are highly requested. So it’ll only be PS5/PC.

Console limitations was a thing mostly due to the PS3 only having 256mb of system memory, and 256mb of video memory. the ps4 has 8 gigs of shared memory. Expect ps4 support to last at least until 7.0. PS3 support only ended with stormblood, 3+ years after the ps4 released.

[KikInperi]

I can only assume by 6.0 they’ll drop PS4 support since further improvements are highly requested. So it’ll only be PS5/PC.

That’s a bad assumption, though. They’ll keep PS4 support for a long time, it’s unreasonable to expect the player base to all be able to get a ps5 day one. Even if they do make a ps5 version, PS4 support will likely remain for years

[CookiesNCreams]

That’s a bad assumption, though. They’ll keep PS4 support for a long time, it’s unreasonable to expect the player base to all be able to get a ps5 day one. Even if they do make a ps5 version, PS4 support will likely remain for years

I would argue it’s pretty reasonable. If not 6.0 then 7.0. Point is, it’ll happen. They can’t just support one console forever.

Console limitations was a thing mostly due to the PS3 only having 256mb of system memory, and 256mb of video memory. the ps4 has 8 gigs of shared memory. Expect ps4 support to last at least until 7.0. PS3 support only ended with stormblood, 3+ years after the ps4 released.

Yeah my point is that it can’t just stay PS4 supported forever, that’s a bit silly to suggest. So I do agree with you there.

[Verlyn]

Joke's on you, Yoshida will release 6.0 for the switch just so console limitations can be perpetuated forever!