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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    They had higher graphics when 1.0 was out and the game couldn't handle them. It ran like crap.

    There's a reason they had to downgrade them for 2.0.
    I mean in fairness the engine was not built to handle it, it was a poorly optimised engine. But they pretty much rebuilt the engine from the ground up as the original engine had too many limitations. If I recall correctly it was a modification of the FFXIII engine, which was not built to handle an MMO like FFXIV. Plus as somebody mentioned...vases with ridiculous amount of polygons. So all-in-all it was badly done.

    That said, I'd rather they focus on content, fixing things that need fixing and storytelling than graphics. Whilst I'd be happy to buy it if they made a HD texture pack for sale on the mogstation, but I'd rather not see them spend existing resource on it.

    Plus GShade/ReShade is plenty IMO to beautify the existing graphics and SE a while back said that they are totally cool with people using it. I've managed to get some really decent looking screenshots out of GShade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saefinn View Post
    I mean in fairness the engine was not built to handle it, it was a poorly optimised engine. But they pretty much rebuilt the engine from the ground up as the original engine had too many limitations. If I recall correctly it was a modification of the FFXIII engine, which was not built to handle an MMO like FFXIV. Plus as somebody mentioned...vases with ridiculous amount of polygons. So all-in-all it was badly done.

    That said, I'd rather they focus on content, fixing things that need fixing and storytelling than graphics. Whilst I'd be happy to buy it if they made a HD texture pack for sale on the mogstation, but I'd rather not see them spend existing resource on it.

    Plus GShade/ReShade is plenty IMO to beautify the existing graphics and SE a while back said that they are totally cool with people using it. I've managed to get some really decent looking screenshots out of GShade.

    It is true that the original FFXIV's engine was the same as FFXIII's.
    The current version uses a fork or FFXV's, so much more adequate for open areas.

    I agree that I'd prefer the devs to focus on content, however, some textures in game are very low resolution and even if the game is mostly beautiful, if you look into the details it can be very weird. The fault comes to the dev team who chose to work on very low resolutions from the start, instead of making high res ones and downscale them after. This decision was probably made because they had to rush the 2.0 version in order to be able to release it in 2013.

    I do really hope that we will get a graphic overhaul at some point. The next expansion pack would be the perfect time to do it in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saefinn View Post
    Plus GShade/ReShade is plenty IMO to beautify the existing graphics and SE a while back said that they are totally cool with people using it. I've managed to get some really decent looking screenshots out of GShade.
    Just out of curiosity, what is GShade?
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    Quote Originally Posted by guardin View Post
    omg stop this white knight blind rage you have going on spreading this nonsense of lies lol. Nothing is gonna be lost. They have many different teams for different parts of the game. That's like saying SE cant make other games because it'll take away from "ff14" resources.
    To be fair we have no idea how SE allocates the budget for 14, content could very well be delayed or cut if certain projects require reshuffling of resources. SE most differently does not let FFXIV keep a large sum of the overall profits FFXIV generates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missbone View Post
    Just out of curiosity, what is GShade?
    It's ReShade that's been tweaked to work better with FFXIV. One of the problems with ReShade is that some shaders, particularlly those that use the depth buffer can mess with your UI. Gshade doesn't mess with your UI and is packed with tonnes of presets.

    Quote Originally Posted by guardin View Post
    omg stop this white knight blind rage you have going on spreading this nonsense of lies lol. Nothing is gonna be lost. They have many different teams for different parts of the game. That's like saying SE cant make other games because it'll take away from "ff14" resources.
    Who's white knighting? I'm not sure it means what you think it means.

    At the end of the day, dev team has a budget, their resources exist within that budget and they have to allocate resources based on what they consider to be a priority. Some people would prefer than they spend that resource on other things as they are happy with the way the graphics are or they consider it a lower priority too. EG: if they spent less resource working on the story of Shadowbringers to work on making the game prettier, then the reception of Shadowbringers wouldn't have been as great as it was.

    A HD graphics pack would be super nice. But I'd rather them work on more features to keep the game fun and engaging with new cool stuff, continue working on newer content and fixing problems. By all means, ask for it, but our feedback on such ideas are: "yes it'd be nice, but 'no' to it being at the expense of something else".
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    The moment something like an HD pack for 100 dollars comes out the backlash will be massive.

    You want better graphics, you have to ask it to the devs. Not wave around your wallet in order to ruin the game for everyone else not willing to do so. Upgrades to happen, should be for all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira View Post
    your sig suggests you're at least aware of ReShade, unless i'm just seeing some gpose magic.
    Yeah, funnily enough I never considered reshade a...mod. LOL.
    I used it on others games before ffxiv and it was just some filters on the screen...Like I said, totally oblivious, haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saefinn View Post
    It's ReShade that's been tweaked to work better with FFXIV. One of the problems with ReShade is that some shaders, particularlly those that use the depth buffer can mess with your UI. Gshade doesn't mess with your UI and is packed with tonnes of presets.
    Hm never had any issues with my UI, but i think i will try it out of curiosity. thx
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    Atm the only way to get any Higher definition effects is to Mod the game. Its a grey area of course its not officially sanctioned BUT almost no company bothers to act against those doing cosmetic mods as they dont alter the gameplay mechanics or have any malicious effects.

    Theres a modding community out there thats included quite a few things like higher quality hair, longer hair than normal, modded costumes, HQ eyes, HQ base bodies the infamous nude ones but also SFW Versions with HQ underwear etc. Im actually suprised SE isnt interested in Hiring some of these people as many mods are really good and honestly some could easily be incorporated into the game very easily.
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    Most none online games I had installed enb on them. Makes the games look amazing.
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