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    Saying WoW is ahead of the curve is pushing it. Yes they have amazing quality of life features in the game but the over all game has gone down hill pretty fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    First, what you proposed in your original thread is not exactly what WoW is doing from what I can tell.

    Second, one example used by Blizzard in the video you linked has an item that is offered at several different price points (in fact, quite a few of them), so I don't think it will solve undercutting because people can still undercut even with the new change.

    EDIT:

    In fact, I'd say the new change makes WoW's auction house worse from a seller's standpoint than FFXIV's marketboard.

    Let's say you have 50 potions to sell, and there's a buyer who wants to buy 50 potions, but another seller is undercutting you for 1 potion. The auction house seems to force the buyer to buy that 1 potion and then 49 of your potion (unless there is another at cheaper price or same as your price but posted later than you), and then it will mail you the 1 remaining potion from your stack that wasn't sold, thus taking it off from the auction house until you take it from your mail and put it back in the auction house.
    But then the next person who wants a potion, if yours is priced competitively and is next in line, the next person wants to buy 50 potions will get your 1 potion and the 49 from someone else.

    So moral of the story: Price your stuff competitively and it will sell. If you stick 50 potions up and 49 goes to one buyer and 1 goes to another buyer, who cares, as long as you get your money? And if only half of your potions sell and someone else undercut you, well... if you're putting 50 potions up and someone only wants 20..... yours wouldn't have sold anyways. If you have 50 potions up and someone wants 20, you could at least make a partial sale which is better than no sale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    But then the next person who wants a potion, if yours is priced competitively and is next in line, the next person wants to buy 50 potions will get your 1 potion and the 49 from someone else.
    That doesn't change the fact that the unsold items in your stack is taken out of the auction house and mailed to the seller. And apparently there is a fee to post items in the auction house.

    So moral of the story: Price your stuff competitively and it will sell. If you stick 50 potions up and 49 goes to one buyer and 1 goes to another buyer, who cares, as long as you get your money? And if only half of your potions sell and someone else undercut you, well... if you're putting 50 potions up and someone only wants 20..... yours wouldn't have sold anyways. If you have 50 potions up and someone wants 20, you could at least make a partial sale which is better than no sale.
    The seller can take all that into consideration when determining how many items to stack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killersai View Post
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-undercutting


    Yep! Isn't it just great? HINT: It currently works EXACTLY the same as we have it here in FFXIV. How primitive! Lucky for them, they're now changing it to be like OSRS's Grand Exchange.


    Oh how funny it is that a game from 2007 has been ahead of the curve for nearly 13 years.

    https://youtu.be/Kc0oaxj5P80?t=14m44s

    This honestly just makes my day. Waiting on you people to realize what a superior market system looks like. Took WoW way too long to figure it out and I'm losing hope for you guys here.
    I remember talking about it on a forum last year about how we should have the OSRS GE system here to eliminate the annoying undercutting system.
    Sadly people couldn't realise how good it is, so it got a lot of hate.
    Edit: Oh hey, it was your thread :P
    I miss all the stuff selling instantly in OSRS (because they also had a kind of sell request), if I just put it 5% less than the average price.
    Here I can do that, get undercut almost instantly, and have to continually check back for more undercuts. It's pretty annoying.

    People can't undercut you if your stuff sells instantly
    OSRS is a superior system, but those who have not experienced it won't really get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krojack View Post
    Saying WoW is ahead of the curve is pushing it.
    Too bad i didn't say that then huh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily_Skye View Post
    wow bad

    ff good

    pls like

    Quote Originally Posted by Killersai View Post
    Well you're not wrong but wow is doing something good for once.


    Are you playing "Good Cop, Bad Cop"? Would not wonder if you are even the same person . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily_Skye View Post
    wow bad

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    Well you're not wrong but wow is doing something good for once.
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    Why are you using a clickbait title about an update to WoW's archaic AH, talking about it as if it's groundbreaking for MMOs then keep referring to Runescape?

    The current AH in WoW is not exactly the same as it is here. It's an archaic mess that players have been complaining about for years. Even with these changes, it won't end up better than it is here. Sellers there will still be relying on addons to scan and relist other seller's listings to make certain they stop on top in the priority list since that information won't be visible to buyers.

    Buyers will have a small edge in being able to buy partial stacks at the lowest price but that's about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Killersai View Post
    Well you're not wrong but wow is doing something good for once.
    Yes, WoW is doing something good for once - about 10 years later than they should have done it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Why are you using a clickbait title about an update to WoW's archaic AH, talking about it as if it's groundbreaking for MMOs then keep referring to Runescape?
    because it's in reference to my previous post calling for the market system here to get a similar change. not very hard to understand when you click the link at the very top.
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