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  1. #21
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    SE is by no means a smol indie company, its a giant corporation with hundred of millions of $$ funds to throw at the games, just like they did with FFXV creating absolute mess.

    There are companies that could upgrade their graphical engines, upgrade their netcode to the game and change a lot of technically difficult stuff for a part of the money SE is doing on FFXIV.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 10-08-2019 at 08:17 AM.

  2. #22
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    Tal Young
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Crystal Tools was used to build 1.0 (and was one of the reasons for its downfall). The developers use the Luminous Engine for most of FFXIV now—however, there’s likely still 1.0 spaghetti code floating around, and I really wouldn’t be surprised if its continued existence is why some things aren’t implemented; or why other things are implemented, but operate in an extremely cumbersome way.
    Nearly all the old code was scrapped. IIRC it was only some item and character database stuff that made the transition, primarily because 1.0 characters had to be able to be imported into 2.0.

    Which makes sense when you think about the type of things they have issues implementing.
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    What do you think our sub fees are for? Our purchases of almost full price expansions? Mogstation?

    In other companies, most of the profit from this game would be pumped back into it (well, whatever they don't skim off the top for themselves) since it's their golden goose. SE funnels it elsewhere. We already pay them plenty. Go lick corporate boot elsewhere.
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    Last edited by IttyBitty; 10-08-2019 at 10:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistyregions View Post
    The problem with the community and developers is the community doesn't understand it takes money to implement even the smallest QoL. So they are always asking for stuff that's unrealistic because the game isn't a fan service it's a business.

    So my solution? For every single person complaining about races, housing, whatever it may be Square should allow a crowd funded development option. It's that simple. Square gives an estimate for the development and implementation cost and it's up to "but I want housing now" guy to fund it.

    Pretty simple right? Here is a example, "I want developers to implement instanced housing because I feel left out and my feelings hurt and I'm soft". The premise is that a huge amount of the community wants this right? *according to the forums*

    Since people are so confident in their stance, square can give an estimate to cover the cost of this because they DON'T HAVE unlimited resources. Let's says its 300k, the community can crowd fund it and get it implemented and since they believe everyone should have access to everything they definitely will let people use it even if they don't contribute right? See, EZ PZ. Want new background colors for the UI? 50k new unisex glamor? 400k.

    This solution allows the developers to maintain their business and work towards new content for the rest of us without limiting resources to the new content. This then allows them to take that money and outsource it to smaller companies and get it implemented. This solves everything really. People can get what they want without demanding a company to bend to their personal insecurities.
    I fund this game with my subscription, retainer costs, and the money I spend on the mog station.
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  5. #25
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    Jenity Dionysus
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    Can a lot of the tech issues the devs deal with be alleviated if they transferred from Crystal Tools / Luminous Engine over to Unreal Engine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
    "While FFXIV will continue to strive to maintain a regular 3.5 month major update cycle, we must also ensure that sufficient time is secured for the meticulous development of new content—or else the quality will invariably drop. This is a complex problem that can’t be solved simply by throwing more money or people at it, as it impacts both debugging and QA."

    https://gamerescape.com/2019/05/10/l...producer-lxii/
    Thank you for sharing that.
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    Last edited by Tanama; 10-08-2019 at 11:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanama View Post
    Can a lot of the tech issues the devs deal with be alleviated if they transferred from Crystal Tools / Luminous Engine over to Unreal Engine?
    that would mean rebuilding the game for a second time, it’s too big to go back and do that now that they have the base game and 3 expansions worth of content
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanama View Post
    Can a lot of the tech issues the devs deal with be alleviated if they transferred from Crystal Tools / Luminous Engine over to Unreal Engine?
    I mean maybe... but they'd have to DO it first. So basically building a third iteration of the game from nothing. It's not like you can just push a button and transition everything from one game engine to another. I wish it worked like that.. it'd be very nice.
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    Gotta spend money to make money. Fixing small things like how the inventory system works and they claim how it's a load on servers would be a start.

    Invest some time to fix inventory code and then you can massively improve systems like Glamm storage and so on. Maybe stop charging real money for extra storage as well.
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  9. 10-08-2019 02:29 PM
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    Was just repeating what everyone else said, lol

  10. #29
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    Silene De'lune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krojack View Post
    Gotta spend money to make money. Fixing small things like how the inventory system works and they claim how it's a load on servers would be a start.

    Invest some time to fix inventory code and then you can massively improve systems like Glamm storage and so on. Maybe stop charging real money for extra storage as well.
    That would be tricky because of the mess 1.0 was and it would take away resources from working on new things that they have in their pipeline. Who's going to pay the developers and engineers to do that if we aren't paying for things like extra storage?
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    Legosi Grey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mistyregions View Post
    The problem with the community and developers is the community doesn't understand it takes money to implement even the smallest QoL. So they are always asking for stuff that's unrealistic because the game isn't a fan service it's a business.

    So my solution? For every single person complaining about races, housing, whatever it may be Square should allow a crowd funded development option. It's that simple. Square gives an estimate for the development and implementation cost and it's up to "but I want housing now" guy to fund it.

    Pretty simple right? Here is a example, "I want developers to implement instanced housing because I feel left out and my feelings hurt and I'm soft". The premise is that a huge amount of the community wants this right? *according to the forums*

    Since people are so confident in their stance, square can give an estimate to cover the cost of this because they DON'T HAVE unlimited resources. Let's says its 300k, the community can crowd fund it and get it implemented and since they believe everyone should have access to everything they definitely will let people use it even if they don't contribute right? See, EZ PZ. Want new background colors for the UI? 50k new unisex glamor? 400k.

    This solution allows the developers to maintain their business and work towards new content for the rest of us without limiting resources to the new content. This then allows them to take that money and outsource it to smaller companies and get it implemented. This solves everything really. People can get what they want without demanding a company to bend to their personal insecurities.
    If they removed the subscription model and the mogstation items, deal.
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