No Irregular tomestone when joining in progress

[Krojack]

I don't understand why you can't get them if you join something in progress. This seems counterintuitive to me. You should encourage people to enable the join party in progress, not turn it off.

[Fawkes]

Some people in this game are extremely lazy and want to play as little as possible. Back when we didn't have a penalty for withdrawing from a queue tanks would just spam withdraw over and over for hours trying to fish for a mostly finished in-progress run that they could just jump into for a quick clear, which made it terrible for everyone else and took longer than joining and running the content themselves would have.

I think now people worry that a group will kick someone so their friend can join in-progress, or some other manipulation of the system. I don't know if that would actually happen enough to be worth preventing and it's difficult for me to comprehend people encouraging and assisting in their friends lazy good-for-nothing behavior.

It would be cool if we could just have nice things, but somebody will usually find a way to ruin it for everyone else.

[Aylis]

My only guess is the reason why was to stem the tide of vote kicking abuse, so a pre-made party can't just kick a random player to replace them with a friend to get free tomestones.

[Rasikko]

It is interesting how strategic and far sighted the team thinks when it comes to curve balling player antics/abuse.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

It is interesting how strategic and far sighted the team thinks when it comes to curve balling player antics/abuse.

It's probably less at the far-sighted, and more due to experience with player Antics that have already happened...

[Jojoya]

I don't understand why you can't get them if you join something in progress. This seems counterintuitive to me. You should encourage people to enable the join party in progress, not turn it off.

"Hey Bob, you done with what you were doing yet? We're at Gaius and ready to kick the rando healer from the group so you can join to get your tomestones."

That is why you can't join in progress.

[Krojack]

"Hey Bob, you done with what you were doing yet? We're at Gaius and ready to kick the rando healer from the group so you can join to get your tomestones."

That is why you can't join in progress.

But that can (and might) still happen with just daily roulettes. So lets remove the daily exp bonus for people that join in progress as well why don't we? Lets also remove the daily tomestone bonus of you join in progress as well.

I personally don't buy this excuse.

[Raven2014]

But that can (and might) still happen with just daily roulettes. So lets remove the daily exp bonus for people that join in progress as well why don't we? Lets also remove the daily tomestone bonus of you join in progress as well.

I personally don't buy this excuse.

The point being is daily roulette is a "daily" things, and thus most people don't really have an incentive to do it. More specifically, most people don't find the associate risk of being report for something like that.

The tomestone farm on the other hand, is a limited time "grind", and thus would incentivize people to risk this behavior more.

No mitigation is completely proof, it's more how harsh you want the system to be and balance it out with the incentive people have to do it. In this case SE is just being smart, they eliminate the threat and thus save themselves the countless would be reports, and probably saving the "would be offenders" from themselves too.

[Feronar]

"Hey Bob, you done with what you were doing yet? We're at Gaius and ready to kick the rando healer from the group so you can join to get your tomestones."

That is why you can't join in progress.

A simple fix would be to make it so empty slots in duty finder groups can only be refilled by fetching random players via the duty finder, and disallow inviting specific players. That's what WoW does, I think.

[RyuSaarva]

A simple fix would be to make it so empty slots in duty finder groups can only be refilled by fetching random players via the duty finder, and disallow inviting specific players. That's what WoW does, I think.

you can't invite people into duties, they use duty finder like everyone else.