Thread: Please Buff RDM For 5.1

Originally Posted by Karshan

Even without using Veraise mana mangement was an issue before the change with too costy spells.

That's fair enough. Having an MP negative rotation was painful and it gave us a time limit in the fight. It's not that they fixed it, it's how much they fixed it. RDM went from MP negative to MP positive to an extreme degree; you can bottom out your MP pool from raising several times in succession, but between Lucid and new spell costs you'll be back up to near full capacity in (relatively) short order.

But if you're parsing, Veraise is useless, because no one in your group is supposed to die, and even if they do you let a healer swift (several deaths means you wipe to get a better try for the parse)

No argument from me here. That's a non sequitur, however, seeing as the post I was responding to only made the point that "RDM can't be a raise battery anymore," and my response was "They fixed it so it can be a raise battery still."

I can break it down further: "Verraise doesn't define the job anymore [...]. You can only spam it 2-3 times before you're out"

In StB it was 3,600/14,400 to cast; 25% exactly. In ShB, it's 2,400/10,000, 24% exactly. The only difference is in StB we had outside mana regeneration from the Phys Ranged, but we also now have twice the Lucid Dreaming ticks we did back then. The point? In StB, you could spam it just as much as you can now: 2-3 times, and you're out. The MP changes in 5.0 themselves made us MP negative, which actually did break us for being able to raise; they were fixed, we're no longer bottomed out for the rest of the fight after 3 verraises.

Originally Posted by wereotter

The job can't be defined by "this is the job that can do chain raises" as that's not healthy for the job's ability to progress and evolve or for the game and its players.

I should clarify that wereotter's position is also mine. RDM can't be the raise mage; that's a meme plain and simple. I'm merely stating that at the moment, it is the raise mage, whether people like it or not (and I certainly don't.)