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    2 changes I'd like:

    1. Remove the challenge log to give commendation.
    2. If possible, allow commendation to be given to people who have left the duty as long as they left the duty after it is done.

    I don't think a separate commendation system is needed because, at its core, a mentor is there to help, which can be done simply by queueing for a duty and helping to get a clear run. That means anyone who queues and stays for a duty is doing their part already. Beyond that, whatever reason people have to commend is their own.

    As for commending multiple people, it sounds nice, but since people's reason to commend is arbitrary, having to commend only one at least would make them have to choose "the best" (according to their preference) among potential recipients.
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    Honestly, Mentors shouldn't even be a thing. Mentor Roullettes shouldn't be a thing; The Mentor roullette should be opened after you've completed the relevant dungeons X amount of times, especially since i've seen people who aren't Mentors be a lot more helpful than the mentors in the group when something is requested or someone has an issue apparent to the group. The Novice Network should be an opt-in channel that anyone can join (if people don't use the channel for intended purpose and turns into trade chat, report them and have them removed).

    Let commendations be a currency, and don't just unlock the item at a certain threshold, use the comms to purchase the rewards. Next, start introducing more rewards, both cosmetic and trivial consumables like champagne, etc... and let people purchase rewards with said comms; And don't do this just once, keep updating with more rewards down the line.
    This system would (A) incentivise people to continually act in a positive manner to keep getting comms, along with doing dungeons with the general community over just doing premades (B) Remove the stigma from those have mentor status as the servants that some people seem to think of them as (C) Give people something to work towards if they see something they like.
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    Last edited by frostmagemari; 10-05-2019 at 11:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frostmagemari View Post
    Honestly, Mentors shouldn't even be a thing. Mentor Roullettes shouldn't be a thing; The Mentor roullette should be opened after you've completed the relevant dungeons X amount of times, especially since i've seen people who aren't Mentors be a lot more helpful than the mentors in the group when something is requested or someone has an issue apparent to the group. The Novice Network should be an opt-in channel that anyone can join (if people don't use the channel for intended purpose and turns into trade chat, report them and have them removed).

    Let commendations be a currency, and don't just unlock the item at a certain threshold, use the comms to purchase the rewards. Next, start introducing more rewards, both cosmetic and trivial consumables like champagne, etc... and let people purchase rewards with said comms; And don't do this just once, keep updating with more rewards down the line.
    This system would (A) incentivise people to continually act in a positive manner to keep getting comms, along with doing dungeons with the general community over just doing premades (B) Remove the stigma from those have mentor status as the servants that some people seem to think of them as (C) Give people something to work towards if they see something they like.

    if you are talking about random duty finder mentors then, only people who are doing mentor roulette have the icon on, the other people are also propably mentors but just not doing the roulette and if everyone can just join in the novice chat then it will have too many people and the chat text move too fast, the current chat is far better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    2 changes I'd like:

    1. Remove the challenge log to give commendation.
    2. If possible, allow commendation to be given to people who have left the duty as long as they left the duty after it is done.

    I don't think a separate commendation system is needed because, at its core, a mentor is there to help, which can be done simply by queueing for a duty and helping to get a clear run. That means anyone who queues and stays for a duty is doing their part already. Beyond that, whatever reason people have to commend is their own.

    As for commending multiple people, it sounds nice, but since people's reason to commend is arbitrary, having to commend only one at least would make them have to choose "the best" (according to their preference) among potential recipients.
    I'd say the challenge log to give commendations should stay. It at least gives people some sort of incentive to commend their fellow party members. Can't go wrong with free XP and gil after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RokkuEkkusu View Post
    I'd say the challenge log to give commendations should stay. It at least gives people some sort of incentive to commend their fellow party members. Can't go wrong with free XP and gil after all.
    While nice to have, exp and gil are easy enough to get. The incentive to commend fellow party members should be coming from those party members themselves.
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    Ronduwil Thaliakson
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    2. If possible, allow commendation to be given to people who have left the duty as long as they left the duty after it is done.
    I honestly don't know why it wasn't that way to begin with. I've learned that the easiest way to get commendations is to simply be the last to leave. I've benefited tremendously by gaming this system, but I still think it's dumb. Once the final boss dies and the duty is complete, everyone still in the party at that point should be eligible.
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    Last edited by Ronduwil; 10-11-2019 at 02:57 AM.