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    I'm fine with scarce, rare or very hard to get but I'm not a fan of time-limited exclusive at all.

    WoW went for this in a big way. They removed multiple mounts, their Relics and massive chunks of important lore, storyline and pre-patch intros. The items never felt prestigious and it felt very punishing taking a break from the game for any amount of time. BFA even deleted the main storyline explaining how the last expansion ended and led up to the current one because they wanted it to be an exclusive reward.

    That said, small vanity glamour, the occasional minion, titles, achievements and such make great exclusive rewards as a sort of "I was there" badge. But deleting large amounts of desirable collector items forever to try to force you into content before "it's too late" just feels bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    Since having a lot of gil is something anyone can achieve if they're bored enough.
    To be fair, no.

    Putting it in perspective, if you earned 10 million gil every single day, no breaks or downtime, you'd only have 3.65 billion in a year. It'd take you nearly 5 years to get to 20 billion. The amount you need to be earning on average is massive.

    I craft a lot and I could never come close to that daily income. I might on patch days or when sales spike, but on average even if I fill my retainers, demand just wouldn't be high enough to make that much profit. As much as people seem to dislike the extremely rich players, it's not easy. It takes considerable knowledge of the markets, economy, smart risks and patience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
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    I never said I hate or dislike them for being rich - I just don't understand why it's being used as a defence for being a good player.

    I still think my comment stands. 20billion? Heck no, what's the point of having that much gil? Useful if you have it though, but I wouldn't attempt it. I can applaud for the determination of going that far as it seems they've found something they enjoy. Having multiple alts with max retainers and maintaining them is tedious, so again, I applaud.

    But it is easy to make a lot of gil just sat on your butt using macros and using timers to tell you when your node is about to spawn. Usually, if I want gil and I have the tolerance to do it, I can make 3mil* a day, ten days that's 30mil, 20, days 60mil etc. It starts rolling to the point where I'm making 'f*ck you money', and I'm not going to be able to spend it during my life on the game. Still, I don't see that as me being a good player or anything.

    In the end, I suppose it's all based on opinion on what people think a good player is. And what a lot of gil is.

    *I do this by making raid food and pots; craft with a macro and read a book. I only then move when I'm alerted my node is up - use another macro for the 800gp rotation. Repeat. Of course, it helps to abuse the easy to craft whitescripts turn-ins for rare ingredients.
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