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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I think SE shot themselves in the foot with their sys---.... /bad me bad.. lol.

    To be fair to some people who've issue with the system, like myself, I said most of the issues SE would have before they released it.. and have kept saying the same thing since. And what I wished happened hasn't really shifted, basically I just reference Wildstar as an easy "this is what would have been perfect for your game". Because FF seems to be all about that freedom, our job system being one of the pinnacle points- so a housing system to be free and full of grand magic too seems like "that's what we should have done" rather than a fairly hardcore housing system that we have now which fits games centered around those ideas (like Dark age of Camelot a game I'm pretty sure inspired our housing system).

    Also just wanted to note I added a section to the post you quoted after you replied, in case you wanted to read that (my bad for editing it later lol).

    I agree it helps to give SE clear ideas of what people want.. honestly I've wrote enough, care enough, that like I could probably whip together an impromptu 1 presentation on housing at this point lol. I appreciate if people are trying to sift out rage to actual desires, just for clarity of SE's sake just so long as we're both thinking similar that wanting a new system and expanding a system so greatly that it's basically that new desired system are fairly similar ideas. By that I mean we can't say if you expand apartment feature so greatly that it becomes like that system you're asking for so what we're going to do is expand it 2% and pretend we did 100% :P. It's fine if SE goes "oh.. well.. we can do 2% now and we'll try to get 100%.." but not to confuse 2% with done and satisfied. If se was like "we added another floor to apartments, you're happy now right, no one has a single complaint anymore right?" wrong.. Although that's still a pretty cool expansion. I'd clap that they did that but also be like "don't stop, keep going!!!".

    So yeah for clarity sake I don't mind how they get to end point goal utopia I just care that we're going there and not stopping by dystonia for an indefinite stay and also telling everyone that "we've made it, this is it, this is the destination you all wanted", as no it's not lol.
    I dunno if the 2% thing is a reference to the ward additions by I don’t think they are claiming that’s their final plan there, assuming that Ishgard housing does eventually happen as part of Ishgard restoration it would be another whole housing area like the ones we have now... plus the two wards that are being added to the other areas, assuming that’s the plan will it be enough to make everyone happy? No, will it be a huge step in the right direction? Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SerLuke View Post
    I dunno if the 2% thing is a reference to the ward additions by I don’t think they are claiming that’s their final plan there, assuming that Ishgard housing does eventually happen as part of Ishgard restoration it would be another whole housing area like the ones we have now... plus the two wards that are being added to the other areas, assuming that’s the plan will it be enough to make everyone happy? No, will it be a huge step in the right direction? Yes.
    2% was a number pulled from thin air, like statistics normally are . Was just to say if they make progress that's awesome (I don't expect mountains to be done all at once), but if they barely make progress then it shan't be called done or close to done.

    To be clear though adding more wards would not make me feel any % improved. They could add 10000 new wards, 100x more wards than players- I'd think they would have made a mistake doing that (would have certainly killed the neighborhood, new meaning to ghost town lol). Making apartments in the wards be able to upgrade into pocket wards, that'd be something though.

    Instanced houses is the desire, not more wards (and at least for my own desires it's been this way since inception of their system, I've not been waffling about on that idea lol).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 10-05-2019 at 12:37 AM.

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