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    Can pvp mentor...Actually require pvp?

    Seems a bit dumb that you can become a pvp mentor, with/without the changes and you don't even need to step into pvp.

    I get that the devs think of pvp community as an after thought, which is hwy we get stuck with the same S tier jobs for 2 years and get less than 2 notable balance changes among this time.

    But can pvp mentor require pvp?

    Maybe just something simple like hitting Diamond tier+300 games in ranked.

    and/or

    a few hundred games of FL/RW?

    it's pretty dumb that people like me have hit top 10/multiple diamonds/multiple to 100s

    And we can't even answer questions about pvp to new players.
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    Nope, hence why I answer PvP questions in NN but won't be seen dead with the PvP crown anymore because it's pointless (tbh like all the other crowns).

    What's funny is it's 1000 dungeons/trials/raids required, but not those + feast/fold (as it's merged with feast count now)/frontlines. The memeing here by SE is unreal.
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    Delete PvP Mentor.

    Instead, have a Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum/Diamond emblem that you earn at the end of a Feast season. Which one you can set depends on what you ended the last season as.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    Delete PvP Mentor.

    Instead, have a Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum/Diamond emblem that you earn at the end of a Feast season. Which one you can set depends on what you ended the last season as.
    I like the sound of this but people are already jealous enough of pvp rewards, wouldn't want to antagonise them further or the crying will get louder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinklet View Post
    I like the sound of this but people are already jealous enough of pvp rewards, wouldn't want to antagonise them further or the crying will get louder.
    I'd say anyone who is going to cry about their inability to obtain an icon next to their name deserves to be laughed at to the upmost degree. A mount I can understand, since at the end of the day XIV is a mount collect-a-thon game, but an icon next to your name? Anyone who complains about that deserves to be laughed at and ignored. Let the man babies throw their temper tantrums.

    Biggest flaw I can see is that, as a replacement for the PvP Mentor system, it entirely ignores the majority of PvP and is really just an added Feast reward. The skills are largely transferable, so one has to assume a Diamond Wolf has some idea how to play PvP, but Diamond Wolf =/= knowing what times the nodes spawn in Secure, for example. Still, as a mentor system it's leagues better than what we currently have for PvP. Mixing Bronze to Diamond ranks into it to add levels of seniority to PvP Mentors is honestly something they should do to regular Mentors, in fact. it would also be hilarious to me to see Mentor status have rank decay before Feast

    Honestly though, the Mentor system is pretty broken and horrid in its own right, and I don't think the Novice Network is really a worthwhile place for any PvP related questions just because of how bad the community in this game is in general. Nice idea, absolutely garbage implementation, even if (like SE) we ignore PvP. We'd be better off aiming for something like an official PvP Learning Fellowship that players are prompted to join in the PvP Profile/when unlocking PvP or something. That would put players in contact with experienced PvPers all the same, and can easily be used to point towards guides/etc. Things like the Questionnaire could even be used by SE to gather feedback, in general it could be used to highlight community team PvP streams, etc. That's all extra work for SE though, so I'll just laugh that notion right out of my head.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 10-05-2019 at 03:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    Delete PvP Mentor.

    Instead, have a Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum/Diamond emblem that you earn at the end of a Feast season. Which one you can set depends on what you ended the last season as.
    Guild wars 2 does that, very cool

    Don't expect it to be well received in this specific community xddd
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    Delete PvP Mentor.

    Instead, have a Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum/Diamond emblem that you earn at the end of a Feast season. Which one you can set depends on what you ended the last season as.
    People don't even understand the Wolf tier titles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    Delete PvP Mentor.

    Instead, have a Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum/Diamond emblem that you earn at the end of a Feast season. Which one you can set depends on what you ended the last season as.
    Dont forget the Hunterwolf emblem, the Betawolf and the leader of the pack emblem.

    But yeah, i did suggest once that pvp Mentor should require Top 100 title/placement, people found that very funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    Dont forget the Hunterwolf emblem, the Betawolf and the leader of the pack emblem.

    But yeah, i did suggest once that pvp Mentor should require Top 100 title/placement, people found that very funny.
    For as long as it falls under the Battle Mentor umbrella, no chance.
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    There is a PvP mentor status?

    I had no idea.

    I'm crafting / gathering mentor.
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