New Mentor requirements

[RoyalBeef]

Yep. Questions like "what is limit break?" and "ah really? you can do <this> and <that>?" (basic things) came from ARR-completed people and not rare. That's the trade-off of a fast lvlup. ARR just too early to lose sprout imho.

When Suzaku Ex came out one of our PF healers didn't know about heal LB3 :/

[Galenini]

Or they can just go to the Balance Discord

Or, they could use a channel in-game and have a discussion within their own community with known mentors, many who will delve gear and abilities for others to see/read.

[Galenini]

When Suzaku Ex came out one of our PF healers didn't know about heal LB3 :/

That's actually not surprising. I've seen that discussion with folks in NN way past levels they could have been using it. Ditto esuna. Yup, even that.

[Bewhatever]

Yep. Questions like "what is limit break?" and "ah really? you can do <this> and <that>?" (basic things) came from ARR-completed people and not rare. That's the trade-off of a fast lvlup. ARR just too early to lose sprout imho.

There's more than that. To embarass myself, I got through all of ARR (main as healer) 4 years ago without fully grasping how off GCD abilities could be woven with on GCD ones. Oops. For all FF leads you, one at a time, through nearly every aspect of gameplay and every mechanic you will encounter later, somehow I missed that one. That's way more advanced than these questions, but it's still a basic thing which should be mastered before attempting any of the level 50 dungeons.

[Halivel]

When Suzaku Ex came out one of our PF healers didn't know about heal LB3 :/

I weirdly had Sprout 2nd Tank on Seiryu Ex when it was releazed (which I can't comprehend tbh. Shouldn't you lose sprout status earlier than this?) so I am not even really surprised.

[TalithaSolarien]

I weirdly had Sprout 2nd Tank on Seiryu Ex when it was releazed (which I can't comprehend tbh. Shouldn't you lose sprout status earlier than this?) so I am not even really surprised.

Sprout status is also linked to a certain amount of playtime. If you rushed through the story it was easy to reach Stormblood and still have the sprout. I've seen quite a few players doing that, esp. on alts.

[Halivel]

Sprout status is also linked to a certain amount of playtime. If you rushed through the story it was easy to reach Stormblood and still have the sprout. I've seen quite a few players doing that, esp. on alts.

I remember there was a thing like "if you reach an X point in the MSQ you lose Sprout status" earlier. They removed it?

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Or, they could use a channel in-game and have a discussion within their own community with known mentors, many who will delve gear and abilities for others to see/read.

Or they can use an already organized and established channel which allows discussion with all kinds of knowledgeable players, read any of the posted guides and tips and even organize any kind of run with even support for voice chat during the run.

[PyurBlue]

No mentor in their right mind is going to mentor the higher end EX/Savage content. It's not possible to clear that kind of stuff if people don't know what they are doing, and that's an issue.

I've already mentored Savage/EX. It's like mentoring anything else. Skill is also a spectrum, there is more than being perfect and not knowing what you're doing. Some players are OK, but just haven't tried the game's difficult content yet. You don't have to clear either. The goal would be to help players improve, even if it's a 2 hour wipe session.

Spouts also need to be redefined, as I feel it's a problem that a person can be a sprout with multiple level 80s. Being a sprout should END at level 50 or once you complete ARR, not once you complete SB.

I don't think there is anything wrong with a level 80 sprout. If you're new to level 80, you're new to level 80. Clearing level 50 doesn't mean that you understand normal raids (start at 60), it means you may not have ever heard of savage, it means your only Alliance raids are the level 50 ones that you can clear while AFK, you would only be familiar with poetics (and even then not necessarily, many level 50's in NN don't know how to best gear up) and not the current tomes and their caps, stats matter much less, etc. If someone is new to level 80 they should have that sprout icon because chances are they will show it.

[RyuSaarva]

No mentor in their right mind is going to mentor the higher end EX/Savage content. It's not possible to clear that kind of stuff if people don't know what they are doing, and that's an issue.

The REAL solution is for SE to remove EX content from the roulettes, and start advertising it as what it should actually be - helping players below level 50 learn the basics of the game.

Spouts also need to be redefined, as I feel it's a problem that a person can be a sprout with multiple level 80s. Being a sprout should END at level 50 or once you complete ARR, not once you complete SB.

I have cleared extreme primals countless times with full new player parties who did not even know what skills like provoke do, the only time you cannot clear them is when people don't understand your language or they simply do not try and rage quit after 1 or 2 times.....you just need to mentor and not rage quit yourself when you get any harder fights.