Mentor Changes - Why 1500 Comms?

[JowyAtreides]

If a player isn't participating in PuG content to the extent were they can receive the commendations - do they really need to be a mentor if they aren't encountering Sprouts on a regular basis?

I feel playing with friends shouldn't invalidate the knowledge and experience a player has of the game and as such, shouldn't lock players out of content such as the mentor roulette which in turn, helps sprouts.

There are multiple categories in the achievement menu, I personally can't see why the relevant mentor acknowledgement can't be locked behind amassing a number of points within that category. Again, with the goal in mind that a player is indeed capable of mentoring instead of being a master in spamming a guildhest (which some people within this thread have advocated), or buying levekits (in order to get the DoH/L versions).

[Mavrias]

I feel playing with friends shouldn't invalidate the knowledge and experience a player has of the game and as such, shouldn't lock players out of content such as the mentor roulette which in turn, helps sprouts.

There are multiple categories in the achievement menu, I personally can't see why the relevant mentor acknowledgement can't be locked behind amassing a number of points within that category. Again, with the goal in mind that a player is indeed capable of mentoring instead of being a master in spamming a guildhest (which some people within this thread have advocated), or buying levekits (in order to get the DoH/L versions).

You can help sprouts by joining any of the other roulettes. If youre frequently doing those with premades, you werent helping sprouts very much anyway. Not to say that you shouldnt be playing with friends or discourage that in any way, but honestly you cant say you wanna help pugs and simultaneously hardly pug.

[Miminming]

Mentor is not all about the knowlegde of the game, its about sharing the hard part pf PuG with newbies and helping them... which have little to none bussiness to people who play with friends... not saying playing woth friends is bad btw, but why do you want a title that created to help PuG when you rarely do it?

[Violet_Galaxy]

I mean I've only been playing since April of last year and I have well over 1,800 commendations split between healer and DPS. I know commendations are highly subjective but I seriously have to wander about people that have been playing longer than me but have less commendations than me. Maybe we need another Mentor crown designated PUG Mentor or something. I feel like you're defeating the purpose of being a Mentor in a PUG while barely pugging and just queuing with your friends or fc. Just my thoughts.

[NintendoAnimeFan]

I mean I've only been playing since April of last year and I have well over 1,800 commendations split between healer and DPS. I know commendations are highly subjective but I seriously have to wander about people that have been playing longer than me but have less commendations than me.

And I've only been playing since July of last year, yet I have just slightly over 600 commendations while playing healer almost exclusively. Commendations aren't just highly subjective. They are 100% subjective. You are completely at the mercy of how other players think and feel about you, whether the reasons for said thoughts and feelings are legit or not. Everyone has different opinions on what makes a good or bad tank, healer, and dps.

And let's not forget that there are other requirements to become a mentor besides comms. Completing 1,000 dungeons is no small feat, even if you did take the "easy" method and just kept running trials. I just recently completed my 800th dungeon personally. It's still a grind either way. And then you also need to have at least 1 tank, 1 healer, and 1 dps all at max level AND have completed all of their respective class/role quests.

People need to stop pretending that increasing the commendation requirement AT ALL, let alone fivefold, is a good idea when the comm system is based on subjectivity to begin with.

[Frizze]

And I've only been playing since July of last year, yet I have just slightly over 600 commendations while playing healer almost exclusively. Commendations aren't just highly subjective. They are 100% subjective. You are completely at the mercy of how other players think and feel about you, whether the reasons for said thoughts and feelings are legit or not. Everyone has different opinions on what makes a good or bad tank, healer, and dps.

And let's not forget that there are other requirements to become a mentor besides comms. Completing 1,000 dungeons is no small feat, even if you did take the "easy" method and just kept running trials. I just recently completed my 800th dungeon personally. It's still a grind either way. And then you also need to have at least 1 tank, 1 healer, and 1 dps all at max level AND have completed all of their respective class/role quests.

People need to stop pretending that increasing the commendation requirement AT ALL, let alone fivefold, is a good idea when the comm system is based on subjectivity to begin with.

Whether someone is a good mentor or not is subjective. Hell, whether someone should be a mentor or not in the first place is fairly subjective. The criteria i lay out might be different from the next guy. If i was asked, id say someone should know what theyre talking about, be friendly, and a good communicator. How do you automate judging that? Well having several classes leveled up would mean you should know about classes(should have at least one in each role, so thatd be 5 level 80s), that one is easy to measure. Having cleared most/all of the instances(ideally one or more times in each role) could indicate you know the runs. All we have here to measure is the checkmark for clearing, and the overall number youve run. Not ideal, but the more you have finished the more likely you are to be knowledgeable of the runs. So how do we measure friendly/communicating? Comms are the only thing the game has to measure anything remotely like that. So in absence of a perfect tool, we use the one we have. And 300 was too small a number to begin with, so im not pretending when i say that this increase was overdue. If i were designing the system, id also make players re-certify regularly(probly once per patch) and id give the system better rewards(the idea i like best is cash shop credit for each full patch they stay certified - so a free outfit/mount/emote every so often for being a good active mentor) and bigger punishments for abuse.

If giving out commendations is as random as people think, then everyone always has an equal chance to get them regardless of role. If you haven't hit 1500 yet it might just mean that possibly you aren't running roulettes a lot, or just run with premades, and need to branch out a bit.

Its also possible someone isnt getting comms because they arent very good at their main class. Are you a DPS that doesnt know your single target/aoe rotation, and when to use each? A tank that doesnt use defensive cooldowns? A healer who starts healing the second someone drops to 95% but doesnt cast a single damage spell the entire run(or alternatively one who lets the party die due to not healing at all)? Its possible you might be the problem.

[Gula]

I wish Lore Mentor was an option. I'd rather side quest than spam extreme trials.

[Violet_Galaxy]

I wish Lore Mentor was an option. I'd rather side quest than spam extreme trials.

We also need Market Mentors; they can teach us about undercutting, buying out your competition and how to sell overpriced dye!

[Gula]

We also need Market Mentors; they can teach us about undercutting, buying out your competition and how to sell overpriced dye!

Isn't that what a Trade Mentor extends to?

[Violet_Galaxy]

Isn't that what a Trade Mentor extends to?

...I was being facetious; sorry you missed that.