Please fix/tokenize Darklight drops

[Isaaru]

You should not have a body drop after 50 Speed runs, although I agree with the token/coin system. Maybe 100+ coins for a body drop and chance of 1 coin drop from SR chest.

Still needs to be rare, even with coin drop system.

Well if the tokens were per chest I would say like 200 coins per piece so 40 runs you can get a specific item that isn't a body. And come on no body after 50 runs? that's almost 17 hours with 20 minutes runs. I feel like your LS should be rewarded with a body after that long. Though I have lost count my LS has 2 bodies after well over 100 speed runs. My issue though doesn't fall within bodies, it's just irritating not seeing a specific (non body) item after 50 runs in that specific instance.

[Geo]

100 coins for body, "Body Coin" that only drops from the SR chest, and isn't guaranteed.

The other DL can stay the way it is, I'd say. By the time you get people bodies, they will have all the other crap more than likely.

[Isaaru]

Yeah that works too. Either way we need some form of insurance to keep people more encouraged.

[Endemerrin]

Our linkshell is nearing some 70~80 speed runs over the past week with only so much as a single eyepatch to show for it, nothing else. Yet we look at some shells that run at the same time and the same length as we do, and they're getting one, maybe two pieces of gear per night. Yet we continue to succeed over and over to no avail.

It's just incredibly demoralizing. I really don't see how such a low drop rate is justified. I could understand for body pieces to be as low as they are, but everything else? Come on. Not every single piece of gear should have absolutely abysmal drop rates. The whole excuse of "Oh, there's other content" or "The best gear should only be available to the hardcore" is a load of BS. My linkshell does run rather hardcore. Almost every run is a speed run, and on raiding days we'll go for 6 hours+. Yet are we being rewarded? No, we're not. Not even remotely.

Other content? We've all cleared that months ago and have nothing to gain from it. The Darkhold has nothing of value other than GC seal items. Most our members are 7/7 Ifrit and Moogle, or don't care about specific weapons. All we have right now is CC/AV, and it's treating us worse than Ifrit and Moogle did in previous patches.

Not fond of the coin idea, but I like the thought of a point system. You gain points for each objective you complete in the instance, with a speed run giving the most points. All DL gear except the bodies could then be available for purchase with these points.

Seems simple, fair, and rewards effort instead of driving people to the brink of just quitting.

[Sigmakan]

Our linkshell is nearing some 70~80 speed runs over the past week with only so much as a single eyepatch to show for it, nothing else. Yet we look at some shells that run at the same time and the same length as we do, and they're getting one, maybe two pieces of gear per night. Yet we continue to succeed over and over to no avail.

It's just incredibly demoralizing. I really don't see how such a low drop rate is justified. I could understand for body pieces to be as low as they are, but everything else? Come on. Not every single piece of gear should have absolutely abysmal drop rates. The whole excuse of "Oh, there's other content" or "The best gear should only be available to the hardcore" is a load of BS. My linkshell does run rather hardcore. Almost every run is a speed run, and on raiding days we'll go for 6 hours+. Yet are we being rewarded? No, we're not. Not even remotely.

Other content? We've all cleared that months ago and have nothing to gain from it. The Darkhold has nothing of value other than GC seal items. Most our members are 7/7 Ifrit and Moogle, or don't care about specific weapons. All we have right now is CC/AV, and it's treating us worse than Ifrit and Moogle did in previous patches.

Not fond of the coin idea, but I like the thought of a point system. You gain points for each objective you complete in the instance, with a speed run giving the most points. All DL gear except the bodies could then be available for purchase with these points.

Seems simple, fair, and rewards effort instead of driving people to the brink of just quitting.

Endemerrin I feel your pain. We're in a pretty similar boat (although recently we've had a little luck in AV). We're 2/million in cutters cry with the only drops being 2 sets of heavy darklight gauntlets. Thats great for the tanks in the LS, but we've yet to see a single light-DD darklight piece so its been frustrating for the LS members who are looking for those pieces.

Also, at this point people are starting to get bored with the raids - doing a speed runs over and over isnt very exciting. And having a crappy drop rate is quite demoralizing.

[Isaaru]

Yes, Endemerrin's experience is a perfect example as to why a point system should be implemented.

[carraway]

One of FFXI's great strengths after having so many expansions was that the breadth of horizontal content at 75 cap was amazing. However, that didn't make it any less frustrating to run a particular Salvage a billion times for that one last 35 piece to complete something. Having more content wouldn't make the Darklight droprate more tolerable, it would just divide our attentions to the point where it would take even longer to finish our Darklight sets.

My linkshell is already planning on the eventuality of running AV/CC alongside Garuda post-1.22, and probably alongside the Legatus/Imperial Stronghold, and we are not looking forward to that 1000th AV/CC run even if we have other "dynamic content" to tackle.

[Abauge_Goga]

This game is definatelly tailored to casual players. I only play 4 days a week 7-11 PM, sometimes in weekends, and i still have yet to defeat some of the new content.
I am getting at it slowly, but I find that this game has plenty to do, for a casual player that is. People that play a lot more go through new content in a week or so.. defeating it all as it comes up.

This sucks since you need to constantly repeat to get your gear. Since Ifrit was introduced I have 150 kills or so and still don't have all weapons.

I don't think SE can fix or will ever fix this. Some people will constantly stay ahead of the curve and never be pleased.

I suggest until they find the magic fix, play something else on the side. (here is hoping they will introduce some roaming dragons)

[Arksniper]

Yeah I'm ok with the way things are otherwise my 12$ a month would be going nowhere fast if shit dropped like Garuda which I finished in 5 days all legit kills no blm burn bs. Took me a year of nonstop hnming to complete my zenith set, 2 years for all God Drops, 2 year for all Sea/limbus drops. Then came Abyssea and I got my +2 af for 3 jobs in a few months. I liked the older non-Abyssea/grauda like systems because it gave good gear to dedicated players. DL drops are fine stop QQing cause you dont have the bestest gear in game. My ls is way over 300+ runs on each dungeon and I can could the body DL on my fingers but that is the way the game goes stop asking for an easy button.

[Enfarious]

Yeah I'm ok with the way things are otherwise my 12$ a month would be going nowhere fast if shit dropped like Garuda which I finished in 5 days all legit kills no blm burn bs. Took me a year of nonstop hnming to complete my zenith set, 2 years for all God Drops, 2 year for all Sea/limbus drops. Then came Abyssea and I got my +2 af for 3 jobs in a few months. I liked the older non-Abyssea/grauda like systems because it gave good gear to dedicated players. DL drops are fine stop QQing cause you dont have the bestest gear in game. My ls is way over 300+ runs on each dungeon and I can could the body DL on my fingers but that is the way the game goes stop asking for an easy button.

You really prefer the pure /random to say Nyzul/Dyna yeah you go repeatedly but you get stuff EVENTUALLY no matter what so long as you keep going. Farming Kirin drops you were gonna get other drops, this you get pretty much shit for your time all the time, so really, hundreds of hours for nothing, that's not my idea of "good".

I'd run just like I did everything else in XI, every day or 3 or w/e the cooldown was IF after 3000 runs I'd actually have something to show for my time. Not just saying I've done 300+ runs w/ my shell and we've seen 3 drops. I have no trouble putting in time, I do have a problem w/ pure gambling when the odds are this stacked. Slot machines have more frequent payouts than that, scratch tickets pay out regullarly. Those rewards aren't the "best" but it's something to show for the time/money.