Eden Savage Loot

[FreyaFreespirit]

Hi everyone - this is my first post on the forums

So basically I am here to suggest something with the Eden savage loot. I have been running Eden Savage since its release - only E1S and E2S mind. I clear it every single week and have done for a while to be honest, but I have TERRIBLE rolls (6 - 9 - 1 - 32 - 41) If it was not for the books we get every week for clear I would have no 470 gear. Now I am struggling with my rolls but some lucky people are gearing their 3rd alt class. It is so frustrating

So I would like to possibly suggest 2 possible remedy's

Firstly make it so people who have the gear piece cant roll on that gear piece - now I am almost certain (like 90%) I saw a bard roll on the belt from E1S and had the 470 belt equipped Im also almost certain the same bard rolled for the head piece on E2S and again had the 470 head piece equipped - now in my opinion he didn't NEED these items - I have the 470 belt myself and I have a few other 470 items (i think I have 3 /4 in total) So I press PASS on the items I already have I would rather they go to someone who has not got them

Secondly could you please lower the cost of the 470 items from the vendor, for example the 470 Edengrace Earrings of Fending cost 4 books of resurrection, maybe lower them to 2 books. It would be so much easier, and I think people like me who have extremely bad luck would appreciate this system more than the current one.

[Mavrias]

Just because the bard didnt need the piece on the class he's on doesnt mean he didnt need the pieces. I'd much rather people bring their well geared main to a weekly clear party than the potentially undergeared alt they may not be as good with. He cleared the fight same as you he has every right to roll on what he pleases.


While i would love for the cost of pieces to be decreased, that wont happen, because people will gear up faster and thus unsub faster.

[Mavrias]

Actually the person leading the part SPECIFICALLY stated that it was for gearing main classes only - there was a loot agreement and everything in place the bard did agree to it - The bard did actually break this. But my point is this He had the items equipped he didnt really need them as much as other people, some people were decent and stuck to the loot agreement and didnt roll on the things they already had - and allowed others whos need was GREATER to have them - well accept the bard.



While I agree this may be a point - I think I am more likely to unsub because there's very little chance of me getting something because I have very bad luck and my rolls are just terrible and the system the way it is rather than if I were actually able to get more items - I think if anything that would encourage me to keep going. Also I do remember this for Alex Savage - I had terrible luck there - and actually Did unsub after like 4 weeks of really bad luck with the rolls - its discouraging

well, if that was the agreement, you could always report them. GMs do actually take loot agreements stated in game seriously. Dont know that it would actually give anyone else that piece, but maybe. Another thing to consider is, were they wearing augmented deepshadow 470 or edengrace 470. IDK anything about Bard BiS this tier but if they had deepshadow they may have preferred the substat array on the edengrace. Ya dig? Again, needing as much as others is subjective. You all cleared together, so you all get the opportunity to roll. If you want to truly enforce something like that, you make a lootmaster party.

I understand being discouraged, but it is what it is. You win some lots and lose some lots. Thats what tome gear is there for. To supplement what you dont have/want.

[RicaRuin]

Well, but they explicitely changed the system from specific drops to chests so that people can also equip their salts by running as the job they feel most comfortable as.

Also don't think they would lower the cost. Savage items have ever had the same cost of tokens since... Alexander, I believe, so no real chance there.

[Billythepancake]

I would like them to make things better for pugs. The current lot system is fantastic if you're in a static, but if you have to put the tier you're just SOL. I'm fortunate enough to have a static and have one that does really well, so I've already gotten bis this tier, but I still certainly feel bad for anyone who has such irregular times that they must pugs, as the was my situation last tier.

[RicaRuin]

Well, if there's a loot chest, everyone can always roll Need and maybe be lucky. Meanwhile, with the other system, maybe you are unlucky and Fending never drops, so you can never roll Need.