MSQ cutscene skipping against TOS?

[Archaell]

It's the same exploit as parsers. You may get a wrist slap, you may get no response at all. Do whatever you want.

Would be nice if SE could fix it. And while they are at it, they could also make the cutscenes last the same length for all the party members, because it's not cool when your cutscene ends 10 seconds after pull due to design flaw based on language settings.

[ErryK]

The roulette is there for new players, not the rest of us.

Wouldn't it be accessible only by greenleaves if that were the case?

[Enla]

Wouldn't it be accessible only by greenleaves if that were the case?

If they wanted the return of 60 minute queue times then yes. Older players get benefits for doing the roulette purely because it was a nightmare to fill it way back before the roulette was implemented, and even again until they doubled the rewards because it's first incarnation wasn't a good enough carrot for most people. But make no mistake we're filling it for the benefit of newbies and are given appropriate rewards for our time, not the other way around.

[ErryK]

But make no mistake we're filling it for the benefit of newbies and are given appropriate rewards for our time, not the other way around.

Veterans would be getting absolutely nothing if that were true though.

[Enla]

Veterans would be getting absolutely nothing if that were true though.

And once more the queue would be absolutely dead, again, if we weren't given anything. Back when I first did those dungeons back in ARR it took over a solid hour each time to get in until finally I begged my FC to help me. Where, hilariously, I was screamed at for watching the cutscenes and likely would ave been kicked had my FC mates not made up the majority of the ranks to keep it from happening. Nowadays we are given rewards to fill the queue for the benefit of the newbies and because at the time when the queue was revamped what would become the framework for Trusts was still in it's infancy. Though given the tantrum's I've seen on the forums about how the near tripled rewards are owed to veterans and the skips should be removed I wouldn't shed a single tear if the MSQ revamp does turn those into proper Trust dungeons.

[Raiya]

This whole thing might be a moot point by 5.3 though the ARR MSQ is getting a fixup job soon and likely Prae and Castrum will be scaled down to 4man or made Trust runs. This eliminates the MSQ issues entirely as a newbie can play solo and not miss the story. The MSQ roulette as well is a holdover as well and likely will get removes or rolled into the lvl cap roulette as 4 man dungeons anyways.

[Ishgardian]

Pretty sure new players are fine without self proclaimed vigilantes like you. Also getting your dopamine kicks from reporting people doesn't seem healthy.

It has nothing to do with "self-proclaimed vigilance".

One is offered ample rewards for watching unskippable cut-scenes, but people like you still want the rewards without the restricitions put in place; thus they end up exploiting the system so they can get their rewards fast and move on. And during the process of satisfying their selfishness they may as well spoil someone else's first-time experience of the game without a second thought. I don't stand for, nor I condone such a behaviour.

It is true MMORPG communities have all kind of people, not everyone will get along with everyone; but it's only a sign of civilised behaviour to be considerate and show some respect and kindness to strangers for 35 minutes.

Getting the kind of sick thrill out of reporting people that you have to gloat about it on the forum doesn't seem like the most healthy mindset to me is what I said.

"Delight" doesn't express "sick thrill", neither was the point I was being made an attempt at "gloating". What I said, and still saying, is that, whether you like it or not, there are consequences for treating others like garbage. Karma is quite strange in that you never know when it will come back to haunt you.

[RyuSaarva]

Wouldn't it be accessible only by greenleaves if that were the case?

the entire point of roulettes is to get new players have their duty pop, if only new players could use roulettes their duties would not pop.

[HyperiusUltima]

This whole thing might be a moot point by 5.3 though the ARR MSQ is getting a fixup job soon and likely Prae and Castrum will be scaled down to 4man or made Trust runs. This eliminates the MSQ issues entirely as a newbie can play solo and not miss the story. The MSQ roulette as well is a holdover as well and likely will get removes or rolled into the lvl cap roulette as 4 man dungeons anyways.

Reducing it to 4-man would be feasible since Castrum really isn’t that long on 4-man minimum iLv. All it is is a few small trash pulls that don’t do a lot of damage. Same goes for Praetorium. It’s not that bad to do this and would also open it up to including other 4-man dungeons.

[ErryK]

the entire point of roulettes is to get new players have their duty pop, if only new players could use roulettes their duties would not pop.

And once more the queue would be absolutely dead, again.

So it isn't for new players then? It's for both new players and veterans to gain something, is that right? I heard from a recent interview Yoshi feels like he isn't providing much for veterans of the game, and has been focusing too much on new players.

Though given the tantrum's I've seen on the forums about how the near tripled rewards are owed to veterans and the skips should be removed I wouldn't shed a single tear if the MSQ revamp does turn those into proper Trust dungeons.

They probably should do that, because MSQ roulette in particular is a controversial topic for many reasons.