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    Wren Elessedil
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    Quote Originally Posted by PvpDRG View Post
    Can you tell me what the rule is that I am breaking then?
    https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...6&id=5382&la=1

    This is probably the one it would be filed under:

    ■Misuse of flaws
    "Misuse of flaws" refers to the deliberate exploitation of a fault in Final Fantasy XIV, or manipulating a feature of Final Fantasy XIV so that it does not function as intended, in order to obtain personal gain or cause disadvantage to someone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PvpDRG View Post
    Is there anyway I can contact a GM to confirm this question? Because if it's possible to do with no problems then I'd like to do it as it cuts off 30 minutes to the longer of the two dungeons. Not everyone can play 15 hours a day. Simply not doing the roulette would be a huge blow for leveling my jobs as it gives by far the most amount of exp.
    You can contact them through email or in game support. I would suggest you do so since you don't seem to believe anyone here despite your own doubts. If it seems wrong then it probably is. Good life tip right there. Also, many people manage to do things just fine even with a limited play schedule. You could too I'm sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by PvpDRG View Post
    Can you tell me what the rule is that I am breaking then?
    It is an exploit. Exploits are against the ToS. Thank you to the person for posting that bit. It also disrupts the gameplay of others which is also specifically mentioned.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 10-01-2019 at 06:17 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WrenElessedil View Post
    Yes, it is against the rules. It's an exploit. It had to be made this way because people were jerks and wouldn't stop harassing people new to the duties.
    It was going both ways (the trolling anyways) so now we get stuck with the latter. I really wish they just had an option like Unsync -- Check this box to not skip story or something along the lines. On the plus side, pvp is bustling again heheh

    Quote Originally Posted by PvpDRG View Post
    But there is no personal gain or disadvantage to someone else. They CAN do it if they wanted to. They can also not do it if they don't want to. To do the skip is as simple as counting 1,2,3. It's not some ground breaking bug.
    The personal gain is you get to skip unskippable cutscenes. The disadvantage for others is you kill the boss long before they get out of them so they don't get to do the fight. I'll be honest, Ive seen the cutscene so many times, I just watch tv and AF until I hear some fighting lol
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    Last edited by Nomuno; 10-01-2019 at 11:46 AM.

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    Is there anyway I can contact a GM to confirm this question? Because if it's possible to do with no problems then I'd like to do it as it cuts off 30 minutes to the longer of the two dungeons. Not everyone can play 15 hours a day. Simply not doing the roulette would be a huge blow for leveling my jobs as it gives by far the most amount of exp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PvpDRG View Post
    Is there anyway I can contact a GM to confirm this question? Because if it's possible to do with no problems then I'd like to do it as it cuts off 30 minutes to the longer of the two dungeons. Not everyone can play 15 hours a day. Simply not doing the roulette would be a huge blow for leveling my jobs as it gives by far the most amount of exp.
    You don't need to play 15 hours a day to watch all of the cut scenes. This dungeon is not 15 hours long.
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    Irony is, the time spent arguing on this very thread could have been spent doing MSQ roulette.

    Heck, you even get cutscene time to respond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JowyAtreides View Post
    Irony is, the time spent arguing on this very thread could have been spent doing MSQ roulette.

    Heck, you even get cutscene time to respond.
    Already did my MSQ and this is why I'm asking about it because people did it and I want to know if I can do it or not. Everyone on here is attacking me because they think I'm this monster who breaks the game and hurts the game play experience for everyone. People in that run praised the people who skipped btw. They where happy to be out of it quicker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PvpDRG View Post
    Already did my MSQ and this is why I'm asking about it because people did it and I want to know if I can do it or not. Everyone on here is attacking me because they think I'm this monster who breaks the game and hurts the game play experience for everyone. People in that run praised the people who skipped btw. They where happy to be out of it quicker.
    People praised it there, sure. But praising it doesn't mean it's not breaking a rule, as others have highlighted in this thread. If they wanted people to skip cutscenes, they would still have the cutscene skip option in those dungeons. Bypassing it through an unintended exploit is breaking a rule.

    But literally all it takes is one person not enjoying it and writing up that report to have you face-to-face with a GM. You aren't going to get validation on wanting to break the rule; you can do it all you like, but you're the one risking your account to do so, keep that in mind. its your choice to take the risk or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariaArvana View Post
    People praised it there, sure. But praising it doesn't mean it's not breaking a rule, as others have highlighted in this thread. If they wanted people to skip cutscenes, they would still have the cutscene skip option in those dungeons. Bypassing it through an unintended exploit is breaking a rule.

    But literally all it takes is one person not enjoying it and writing up that report to have you face-to-face with a GM. You aren't going to get validation on wanting to break the rule; you can do it all you like, but you're the one risking your account to do so, keep that in mind. its your choice to take the risk or not.
    So if I go out into the world and find a player doing this fate "glitch", I can simple report them and have the fate system reworked because it breaks my enjoyment in having a hard fought fight won the "real" way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PvpDRG View Post
    So if I go out into the world and find a player doing this fate "glitch", I can simple report them and have the fate system reworked because it breaks my enjoyment in having a hard fought fight won the "real" way?
    You could yes and if you gathered enough traction for a case, they'd look to rework the system. It would need a good number of players to do the same though

    This is exactly how the MSQ dungeons went from skippable to unskippable. People were kicked from parties or abused in chat for watching cutscenes, new people wanted to watch the scenes in real time (as tbh, it is not the same watching it back at the unending journey) and the conflicts this caused moved them to make it unskippable.
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