Playing SCH is so awkward and bad

[Millybonk]

Coming from my lvl 80 WHM playing SCH feels really awkward:

• My lvl 70 SCH has only access to Aetherflow to get Atherflow stacks every 60 seconds, and yet several of my heals/mitigation tools are locked behind an Aetherflow cost - and actually needing to be in combat to even be able to cast it is just dumb
• Not being able to target my faerie's Embrace leads to her randomly healing injured party members when the tank needs healing the most
• Healing from max Physic range leads to my faerie not doing anything, even though the range for Embrace is the same as Physicc
• The non-Embrace faerie casts require me to almost be in melee range due to the 15/20 yard range, or else I miss the cast on half the group
• The non-Embrace faerie casts take 2-3 seconds before she even attempts the cast, which feels so clunky and unresponsive, as during that time-frame I neither get Embrace casts nor immediate effect of the cast as she's still casting it

[KageTokage]

The "combat required for Aetherflow" thing was done because people oft felt like it was necessary to wait a whole minute before boss pulls so SCH/SMN could start with a full Aetherflow stack and have another ready to go ASAP.

That aside, I've never felt starved for aetherflow outside of when tanks are doing big pulls in dungeons (And Dissipation and their other cooldowns fix that).

As for the faerie, most of its issues can be resolved by using stay to make it sit in the center of a boss arena where it'll be able to generally reach anyone who isn't standing on the very edges.

[Kurando]

You've just gotten too used to WHM, play SCH some more and most things you get accustomed to over time.

[Millybonk]

The "combat required for Aetherflow" thing was done because people oft felt like it was necessary to wait a whole minute before boss pulls so SCH/SMN could start with a full Aetherflow stack and have another ready to go ASAP.

That aside, I've never felt starved for aetherflow outside of when tanks are doing big pulls in dungeons (And Dissipation and their other cooldowns fix that).

As for the faerie, most of its issues can be resolved by using stay to make it sit in the center of a boss arena where it'll be able to generally reach anyone who isn't standing on the very edges.

You can do that now with Dissipation too.

I'm sometime starved, due to not much experience with SCH, but mostly it's the fact that outside of Dissipation you only get 3 casts per 60 seconds.

That's not resolved, that's a workaround, which also implies that you too think that the faerie AI/behavior is pathetic.

[Millybonk]

You've just gotten too used to WHM, play SCH some more and most things you get accustomed to over time.

If the faerie AI would be decent, would cast heals on priority targets, would move faster, would cast her abilities instantly without a wind-up time - maybe.

But as it currently stands - no.

I can't even cast a faerie ability while I myself cast something as the faerie ability is considered an ability I cast, even though the faerie executes it, which in my eyes defeats the purpose of the faerie to even be present.

[Keddera_StormMoon]

Pre-ShB, the non-embrace abilities casted immediately.

The faery abilities feel clunky as the game now requires her to finish her previous cast and move to your position before casting what you commanded. When you are in a situation where you are constantly dodging, this delays her casts significantly.. You can get around a lot of this by taking her off "Heel" and putting locking her into a specific location.

I've mained the class for a year. Only time I get Aether-starved is in specific dungeons or people are just playing amazingly bad.

[Kurando]

snip.

Could I get on board with players having more control over Embrace (I know some preferred attaching it to a macro), sure but if you ever manually used fairy actions before Shadowbringers then the current system is not massively different (aside from Embrace).

[MrKusakabe]

As for the faerie, most of its issues can be resolved by using stay to make it sit in the center of a boss arena where it'll be able to generally reach anyone who isn't standing on the very edges.

...until she is blown all over the place. Being in camouflage mode (not clickable from the party member list and disappearing nametags) it can be ridiculously stressful to see where she is, which leads me to simply send her to the middle blindly - even if she would be there already, which should not be a thing.

[Shori]

[*]The non-Embrace faerie casts take 2-3 seconds before she even attempts the cast, which feels so clunky and unresponsive, as during that time-frame I neither get Embrace casts nor immediate effect of the cast as she's still casting it[/LIST]

^ This I totally agree with. Im pretty sure faerie abilities used to be near enough instant so dont understand why theyd change that.

[CrimsonGunner]

i don't play much scholar and tbh when i do, i do feel the same as well that scholar kit feels awkward and not intuitive/fluid in its style.

the fairy control bother me mostly cause it really feel sloppy,rigid and doesn't help utilize the fairy potential.
i always felt like that the fairy needs to be an extension of the scholar, that he can order her to follow someone instead just him and he could give her orders from a far while he is doing something else. but instead you mostly have her follow you around like a dog and it feels underwhelming tbh and not feeling like a good use for her.

also its probably due my inexperience as scholar but when i read the skills and try the kit, it feels kind of underwhelming/lacking for a scholar.
i always imagine scholar as a version of alphinaud but i really can't picture alphinaud using this kit , it doesn't feel like it encourage thinking or apply the strategy aspect of scholar.
as i said i kinda imagine scholar as a version of alphinaud or the arcanist teacher npc, that even though they have very low damage, they think and prepared for any scenario while giving consideration to theirs and others individual strength.
they change the course of battle by influence allies and enemies alike and call their pets to bolster their party in certain aspects(like attack,defense and healing & recovery).

this might be different by how people define FF14 scholar and probably hows SE sees him but that's what i feel scholar should feel like when playing him.