Adding Stances

[Saefinn]

No it’s not okay. Just look at the tales of the duty finder thread. That thread speaks for itself. If you aren’t playing optimally, it’s a f-off or die situation, or that’s how I feel anyway. Hence why I say if they make whm complex like re-adding stance dancing, I will have to drop it because 1) I can’t handle stance dancing, it’s too hard meaning I’m not playing optimally and 2) it is no longer fun.

I've come across WHM's who're really unhappy with the job right now and just aren't having fun anymore and some here have stated they are tired of complaining and not being listened to.

But what's wrong with some room for compromise? I mean, nobody here wants you to stop having fun either. If a Cleric Stance or some variation of (or another stance altogether) were introduced to keep the other population of players happy and the rest of the job remained as is (as my OP makes no suggestion of changing any of the job's core design what-so-ever, other that maybe 1 or 2 more DPS spells back), you could continue to play the job exactly as you do.

And those who actually have the attitude you're describing are in the minority. Like I said, when Cleric Stance was a thing and this was back when I was less of a casual player and raiding (back in ARR). If people didn't use Cleric Stance, not many cared. Though I know there's more DPS checks out there these days, but people who're most likely to say anything would be doing stuff like Extremes and Savage. And that's not really casual content anyway.

Having played the game for years, it's not often I witnessesed people take crap for playing suboptimally. Generally I say sod those with poor attitudes. And said people will pick people up for anything that's "sub optimal". I mean, we still have a similar situation with healers who don't DPS, most aren't going to care in most of the game's content, even if it's playing the job sub-optimally.

And taking Billy's point, I started out as a suboptimal AST who'd often forget their cards, or accidentally give it to the wrong people and I wasn't goot at healing with it either. And I still forget and I still misfire cards, hey, I'm human.

Heck, I mostly play in Nocturnal Sect on it, despite it being the least efficient sect with no benefit over Di beyond a "WHM/AST" or "AST/AST" setup, but it's the one I'm enjoying the most and it's not like I'm going into Savage with it. It's also kinda the what led me to my AST suggestion of not bringing Noct in line with Di because Noct is harder to play/maintain. If I Diurnal, I could probably DPS more and contribute better.