Normal raid weapons

[Kuroka]

Yes, but actually no
If we do as you say op, what we will do of the tomestone from 2nd savage floor? by what will you replace it.

How about nothing? you either get your tome/crafted/primal/random special content wep/relic or just wait for the savage one... i dont think we should consider savage raids all the time when talking about such stuff.

[ErryK]

I think what they have at the moment works.

[Barraind]

I'm actually in favor of that, because we honestly need more sources of gear at each ilvl (especially in the .0 set of content), and making the normal raid version not take 7 weeks + 2 weeks and change of capped tomestones would be a decent place to start.

[DrWho2010]

and what ilvl would that be???

weathered AF wpn: 430
goetia:440
titania/crafted: 450
deepshadow: 460
hades ex wpn: 465
aug deepshadow: 470
eden wpn: 475

if they were to add another wpn where would you put it and that's even more dev time lost to making another set of weapons.

[Noitems]

and what ilvl would that be???

weathered AF wpn: 430
goetia:440
titania/crafted: 450
deepshadow: 460
hades ex wpn: 465
aug deepshadow: 470
eden wpn: 475

if they were to add another wpn where would you put it and that's even more dev time lost to making another set of weapons.

I'd assume putting it at 445 would make the most sense sense. The weapon should ABSOLUTELY not be better then the EX weapons as those fights are made to be much harder then the casual raids.

[Caitlyn]

No need to put a weapon for normal raids.
You got 450 from Titania/crafted and 460 from tomes. Thats more than enough.

With the upcoming 24-man raid and new ex primal, people will get their hands fast enough on new weapons. And what will this normal weapon look like? Just like a non-dyable version of the raid weapon?

[Endariel]

and what ilvl would that be???

weathered AF wpn: 430
goetia:440
titania/crafted: 450
deepshadow: 460
hades ex wpn: 465
aug deepshadow: 470
eden wpn: 475

if they were to add another wpn where would you put it and that's even more dev time lost to making another set of weapons.

Apparently the author wants to yeet titania weapon and replace it with a tuned down Eden weapon which will have the same model minus dye obviously

[Alucard135]

Apparently the author wants to yeet titania weapon and replace it with a tuned down Eden weapon which will have the same model minus dye obviously

Meaning players will either have to fork out millions of Gil to get the crafted one or wait 4 weeks before they can get one. Skill ain't gonna cut it anymore.

[Barraind]

A crafted weapon is not 0 days of grind. It's actually a significant amount

The process of gathering everything you need for a single crafted set is doable in less than a day. I regularly make my set + 1-2 to sell on day 1.

You cant even say it requires getting crafters leveled, as theres plenty of people who will take your mats and some $ and make them for you, and at the time in an expansion where we can even craft it, you should already have made back the investment of leveling your crafters and gatherers many times over.

It is certainly SIGNIFICANTLY less investment than 7 weeks and delaying 3 tomestone upgrades, which is the current cost of the normal weapons (though the window of usefulness for some of these things heavily depends on the delay in introducing the different upgrade paths for tomestone and crafted gear, and for weapons, the relic quests, since these dont happen at the same time each raid tier due to the way things get spaced). .

[Rasikko]

I just wish I didn't have to do Eden to get my 460 wep. I'm skipping that until the next weapon tier.. or get a crafted weapon, whenever the heck that becomes available.