PVP exclusive mounts rewards are unfair to non pvp players

[Neutro]

Hello,

So right now some cool mounts like "Goten" are only obtainable through grinding 10+ hours of pvp in ff14.

How unfair is that to non pvp players?!?

I've been playing mmos for over 15 years, it's the first time that i'm seeing pvp exclusive rewards that can be used outside of the pvp sphere. This is absolutely nonsense.

PVP armors like "the golden wolf" counterparts can be obtained as gold saucer rewards for non pvp players so why not make the pvp exclusive mounts also available this way or through daily pve rewards or even in the mog station?!?

I'm playing this game to have fun. Where is the fun when you need to do something you dont like for 10+ hours to get something you enjoy?

I'll be suspending my subscription to ff14 until this changes, if ever...

[Edax]

How unfair is that to non pvp players?!?

Good question. How is it unfair? Why do you deserve these rewards?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Bye.

Some things being exclusive to certain aspects of the game is fine. There are mounts exclusive to savage raids, eureka, diadem.

[Enla]

I have a feeling you're going to flip when you see the Top 100 PVP Exclusive rewards...

Those mounts have been available for several years now and most of the people who wanted to get them had their chance to do so before the promotion ended - and could earn them at a very leisurely rate at that. Heck you /still/ have time if you grind it out. 5.1 isn't here just yet. Also the Gold Saucer versions of the Garo gear aren't dyeable, the one you get from Wolf Seals are. They made a compromise on that item to get people who wanted them a chance, while also making sure PVP players had a reward to sink their teeth into.

Providing rewards for content is standard practice in MMOs and while I don't know what MMO's you're playing, everyone I've played has used a similar system to spread out the loot to hopefully get their playerbase interested in trying different things. If you want the item do the content. They're not going to change their minds on something that's going to be taken out of the game soon anyways.

[Kurando]

I'll be suspending my subscription to ff14 until this changes, if ever...

Well it's unlikely to change after the many years the event has been live and it's soon to end so your response is kinda dramatic. You play/invest in activities in the game and get rewarded for doing so whether it's savage raids, ultimate fights, crafting/gathering, gold saucer minigames, PvP etc. I don't enjoy crafting but I also don't expect all the benefits and stuff you get from doing it, otherwise it invalidates those who do put in the work to obtain them.

[Mistyregions]

Guys I dunno why savage mounts are locked behind savage? I mean I would have to spend weeks and gil, sometimes 12 hours a WEEK to get savage for an opportunity to roll on a mount.

I'm basically gonna unsub until I log in and you hand me everything I want with no effort, I don't unstand this world, if I cant have it handed to me or pay for it why do I wanna do it?

[Alucard135]

Dear god, the entitlement is real in this post.

[Vahlnir]

Bye.

Some things being exclusive to certain aspects of the game is fine. There are mounts exclusive to savage raids, eureka, diadem.

The difference is savage raid, Eureka and Diadem mounts are readily available to those willing to put the effort in at any time. They aren't timed exclusives part of what's basically a rigged ranking system that can be easily exploited (ranked PvP). Regular PvP mode rewards are fine though. Don't get me wrong, I have no issue with not having them. I really don't. I just think that the whole ranked PvP thing is a waste of time and resources. They should just add these rewards to regular PvP modes through vendors or something. Maybe keep them on a timer to make them feel special but also allow them to be grinded by many in an accessible setting like grinding out, say, 100k wolf marks or a seasonal currency. They put a lot of effort into these Feast ranking rewards, and it shows. It is just largely wasted on the player base since it is accessible to maybe a small fraction of a small fraction of a small fraction of the game's population.

[HyoMinPark]

Here we go again...

Hello,

So right now some cool mounts like "Goten" are only obtainable through grinding 10+ hours of pvp in ff14.

How unfair is that to non pvp players?!?

I’ve had all three Garo PvP mounts basically since the event came out back in Patch 3.5. They aren’t that difficult to get. I’d never even PvP’d in this game until the Garo event started; and I only did the content because I wanted some of the glamours.

There’s nothing wrong with having some rewards exclusive to certain kinds of content. Savage raids have dyeable gear and mounts locked behind them: are you going to complain about unfairness with regards to these as well? What about Ultimate and the Ultimate weapons?

I've been playing mmos for over 15 years, it's the first time that i'm seeing pvp exclusive rewards that can be used outside of the pvp sphere. This is absolutely nonsense.

Well, this is FFXIV. Not another MMO. So...

PVP armors like "the golden wolf" counterparts can be obtained as gold saucer rewards for non pvp players so why not make the pvp exclusive mounts also available this way or through daily pve rewards or even in the mog station?!?

The Gold Saucer variants of the Garo gear are not dyeable. The PvP versions are dyeable. So there is a difference between the two.

Other PvP gear is only available for wolf marks—like the Roman-style inspired gear (e.g., Republican sets) that was released in early 4.0. There is no other alternative to get these pieces.

These mounts do not need to be on the Mogstation. They’re fine being in-game. Aside from the fact that attempting to sell these for real money would bring up licensing issues, since SE does not own the Garo franchise. This is the main reason why the Yokai stuff has never appeared on the cash shop.

I'm playing this game to have fun. Where is the fun when you need to do something you dont like for 10+ hours to get something you enjoy?

Fun is subjective and changes for everyone. You may not enjoy doing PvP for the mounts, but others simply don’t care. So let’s not talk about what’s fun for everyone else—because your definition will probably differ from other people’s definition.

I'll be suspending my subscription to ff14 until this changes, if ever...

Well, good-bye, then. Because this won’t change.

[Enla]

The difference is, savage raid, Eureka and Diadem mounts readily available to those willing to put the effort in at any time. They aren't timed exclusives part of what's basically a rigged ranking system that can be easily exploited.

I mean, I'd agree with you if this was the Yokai Watch event but Garo has been ongoing for years without stop and from what I've seen it doesn't even touch the PVP ranked mode. You just need a flat number of wins in Frontlines and/or Feast. And even though it's coming to an end there's still time to get what you want if you hustle right now.