The most Limited Content: Low-Level Dungeons

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I fail to see how making content more enjoyable is a bad thing though.

I understand where you are coming from, but you need to remember these early dungeons aren't designed for us who have clearly reached endgame of the third expac, they're designed for new people just coming into the game.

Giving too many actions for new players is a sensory overload or leads to confusion, and they're not going to be able to refine themselves if they need to understand managing all of their cds. Let alone the high player mentality of getting these dungeons over asap and it's just going to lead to arguements when they don't understand what you're saying.

These skills are limited to reflect their progress, and it puts the core fundamentals in place for them. Hell WE the players with experience can also explain to them how to handle certain things or learn their kit so they can start getting into bigger pulls.

I know there's this argument going around about why they don't give us all the skills we have into the lower level jobs and nerf them for our much igher level jobs. To that end are we really asking the guys who are currently having balancing issues with our endgame ranged jobs to take the time to go and rework lvl 16 dungeons to shave off like 3 minutes a run?

If you're a group of experienced players who want a challenge then just do Wall to Walls like normal with proper cd management and Tank/Brd aoe. I used to joke a long time ago leveling my jobs in Stormblood using #MakeTamtarafun where I would pull wall to wall in Deepcroft as a WAR using my kit and berserk/overpower spam mobs to pieces. This was before the tank buffs and where aggro was actually something you needed to pay attention to. Things like that are ways you can make the lower level dungeons fun for the experienced players, pushing yourself to get it done as quickly as possible while having fun. Even now with current tank buffs the longest low level dungeons (Satasha and Copperbell) at most last about 17 minutes with a tank aoeing and proper management. That's the usual length of a current expert dungeon run too, so it's not even that long by comparison,